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Kevin Fret: Gay rapper shot dead in Puerto Rico aged 24

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Kerotan said:
vivster said:

And there we have the root of the problem. People making inane things like their sexuality to an identity.

"the fact of being who or what a person or thing is."

I have to love people these days trying to downplay sexuality. It's obviously part of people's identity. 

It's your fucking sexuality that you are born with. It defines with who you want to have sex with, not who you are. Might as well make that little mole on my back or my natural hair color my identity. You can't downplay sexuality because it doesn't matter one bit in the first place.



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vivster said:
Kerotan said:

"the fact of being who or what a person or thing is."

I have to love people these days trying to downplay sexuality. It's obviously part of people's identity. 

It's your fucking sexuality that you are born with. It defines with who you want to have sex with, not who you are. Might as well make that little mole on my back or my natural hair color my identity. You can't downplay sexuality because it doesn't matter one bit in the first place.

That little mole is part of your identity yes. Sexuality is one of many things that defines you. Don't even try to downplay that. 



Kerotan said:
Ayla said:
I'm in Chicago.

People get shot all the time. It doesn't make the news. Moving on...

If that person is famous it does. 

Was he really though? His Wikipedia page got made after his death.



Kerotan said:
vivster said:

It's your fucking sexuality that you are born with. It defines with who you want to have sex with, not who you are. Might as well make that little mole on my back or my natural hair color my identity. You can't downplay sexuality because it doesn't matter one bit in the first place.

That little mole is part of your identity yes. Sexuality is one of many things that defines you. Don't even try to downplay that. 

They're part of your identity but they are not a defining part of who you are and what you do. Who you are doesn't matter, it's about what you do and sexuality is nothing worthy of note in the grander scheme of your personality.

It's always about what you do and not who you do. If someone thinks his sexuality makes him special to a point where he elevates it as an integral part of the person he is then that person is doing humaning wrong. Same goes for gender, heritage and all the other nonsense people have no control over.



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vivster said:
Kerotan said:

That little mole is part of your identity yes. Sexuality is one of many things that defines you. Don't even try to downplay that. 

They're part of your identity but they are not a defining part of who you are and what you do. Who you are doesn't matter, it's about what you do and sexuality is nothing worthy of note in the grander scheme of your personality.

It's always about what you do and not who you do. If someone thinks his sexuality makes him special to a point where he elevates it as an integral part of the person he is then that person is doing humaning wrong. Same goes for gender, heritage and all the other nonsense people have no control over.

If you are a rare case of an openly gay rapper in a country that doesn't approve of that they it most certainly does define you. We're not talking an openly gay rapper in Ireland or a country like that. 



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vivster said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Dude, look at the pictures of him. He wasn't just a rapper that happens to be gay, the LGBT stuff was his identity.

It may seem kinda crass, but its fair way to describe this guy. He wasn't your run of the mill rapper, the LGBT likely helped him get attention and continues to do so! Take the gay thing out and its barely a story.

And there we have the root of the problem. People making inane things like their sexuality to an identity.

I agree and blame the LGBT community for that.

I was thinking about the story from the other day. Logan Paul just got criticism for saying he was going go gay for a month. Obviously its a joke suggesting he's just gonna have sex with guys. Gay is and has always been synonymous with homosexual so he didn't do anything wrong. We used to hear being gay means you're the same as everybody else but you have sex with people of your own gender. And guess who attacked him for that comment? Gay people. Nowadays the LGBT community perceive themselves as a some sort of race, a unique group, a community, etc. So even suggesting you're gonna go gay is now mocking being gay is some sort of choice. Inane is a good word for sexuality has become in our society. Essentially, a simple joke about having sex with guys somehow became an attack of gays. It really feels like some sort of narcissism or something, you can't even suggest you want to put your dick in another man without upsetting this group.

Anyhoo, Kevin Fret was obviously part of this LGBT thing. His identity was of the LGBT culture and he was an advocate for it. And again, without the LGBT aspect its not a story and maybe he'll become a martyr.

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Kerotan said:
vivster said:

They're part of your identity but they are not a defining part of who you are and what you do. Who you are doesn't matter, it's about what you do and sexuality is nothing worthy of note in the grander scheme of your personality.

It's always about what you do and not who you do. If someone thinks his sexuality makes him special to a point where he elevates it as an integral part of the person he is then that person is doing humaning wrong. Same goes for gender, heritage and all the other nonsense people have no control over.

If you are a rare case of an openly gay rapper in a country that doesn't approve of that they it most certainly does define you. We're not talking an openly gay rapper in Ireland or a country like that. 

Parading your sexuality around as if it's something special is part of the reason why people hate homosexuals.



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vivster said:
Kerotan said:

If you are a rare case of an openly gay rapper in a country that doesn't approve of that they it most certainly does define you. We're not talking an openly gay rapper in Ireland or a country like that. 

Parading your sexuality around as if it's something special is part of the reason why people hate homosexuals.

I think it's more than parading around his sexuality. Remember Straight Dave?

(Warning, the video is kind of NSFW)

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vivster said:
Kerotan said:

If you are a rare case of an openly gay rapper in a country that doesn't approve of that they it most certainly does define you. We're not talking an openly gay rapper in Ireland or a country like that. 

Parading your sexuality around as if it's something special is part of the reason why people hate homosexuals.

I'm actually disgusted reading this. The reason they parade around like it's something special is because gay people were purged for centuries for being gay. So they are proud to celebrate it. If black people have a celebration I'm not going to hate them for being proud of who they are. 



Faelco said:
KLAMarine said:
Is his being gay relevant to the shooting?

That's what I thought too, but the article seems to say that he was pretty famous for that, and a LGBT rights advocate. So it's not sure, but definitely possible. 

I bet Russia and Jamaica cheered the shooter on then.



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