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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Fortnite - warning DO NOT play on PS4, or you can't play on Switch (and quick start guide if you're sheltered like me, and didn't know about this game before)

KLAMarine said:
Aeolus451 said:

Exactly. It's most likely the dev's fault.

There was no issues between ms, sony and pc on this before nintendo got involved.

Nintendo and Microsoft hardware are able to cross-play.

Sony's the odd man out on this one.

Another way Larry could have put it:

If you plan to play PUBG on PS4, just wait a little longer... You haven't been able to play and continue to be left out because we used our software, resources, and financial strength to keep the game off the PS4 platform, knowing full well that since Bluehole could only launch on a single console initially, we weren't going to let that be PS4. We also just acquired a bunch of studios, but not Bluehole, because we are pro consumer if you haven't noticed. 

PS on the other hand, has locked down Fortnite accounts to the PS4 platform, and won't allow cross play or cross accounts. They did however refrain from locking the game down completely so that all other possible platforms could play and enjoy the game as well. If you haven't noticed, they are super anti consumer!

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Pavolink said:
Maybe they reach this agreement when Fortnite and Switch didn't were as big as today.
Now everything is getting out of hands due to this.
Last year's Minecraft no cross play policy effect wasn't as big as this.

Solid points but every lost opportunity is wasted if the agenda isn't constantly pushed. This just might push PS to spin it as positive PR and allow cross play when PS5 launches, maybe.



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EricHiggin said:
KLAMarine said:

Nintendo and Microsoft hardware are able to cross-play.

Sony's the odd man out on this one.

Another way Larry could have put it:

If you plan to play PUBG on PS4, just wait a little longer... You haven't been able to play and continue to be left out because we used our software, resources, and financial strength to keep the game off the PS4 platform, knowing full well that since Bluehole could only launch on a single console initially, we weren't going to let that be PS4. We also just acquired a bunch of studios, but not Bluehole, because we are pro consumer if you haven't noticed. 

PS on the other hand, has locked down Fortnite accounts to the PS4 platform, and won't allow cross play or cross accounts. They did however refrain from locking the game down completely so that all other possible platforms could play and enjoy the game as well. If you haven't noticed, they are super anti consumer!

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You make a very valid point. Microsoft's abduction of PUBG was scummy. That does not absolve Sony of anything either and right now, as it should always be, it's about playing these two against one-another to get what's best for the consumer or at least punish anti-consumer moves.



Aeolus451 said:
Jumpin said:

It’s normal for people to have functionality permanently removed, without warning, if they login even once to PS4 at any point?

No warning is needed for something widely known. People just didn't think about it at all or asked questions. Maybe they never realized it. If you want to play a multiplatform game on a certain platform, ya don't play it or buy dlc for it on other platforms because progress/dlc content will be locked to a platform. What ms and nintendo are allowing in this instance is extremely abnormal. I wouldn't double dip with a free-to-play game on different platforms unless the dev says it's safe. Ya don't just assume that it's safe.

You're being obtuse and not answering the question.

This has nothing to do with exclusive features or anything like that being locked to specific platforms. What is happening is that any player, regardless of platform (they could have played 2000+ hours on PC), logging in even once to PS4 and permanently losing their ability to play their account on Switch (and presumably Xbox One).

Again: It’s normal for people to have functionality permanently removed, without warning, if they login even once to PS4 at any point?
You don't see anything abnormal about that?



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Really sucks. Don't know why Sony is go coy in bringing cross-platform compatibility to the Playstation. Microsoft was a bit of a dick last gen, but its good that we can play with PC and Switch owners. Hopefully they change their tone eventually.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

I don't understand. Not being able to access save files/progression across multiple platforms has been commonplace for literally decades. Why is it that Fortnite should somehow be exempt from this?

 

Like, I'm literally dumbfounded that this all of a sudden is a HUGE problem.

Last edited by TranceformerFX - on 17 June 2018

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TranceformerFX said:
I don't understand. Not being able to access save files/progression across multiple platforms has been commonplace for literally decades. Why is it that Fortnite is somehow exempt from this?

and blacks were slaves for years. Just cause something is common place doesn't mean it is good. Can we quit bringing up that it has always been this way, or some other system did this in the past, ect. When has two wrongs ever made a right

But the main point is has been discussed hundreds of times in this topic. You have PC gamers who have put hundreds of hours on their PC on this game, logging onto the PS4 once to unlock a skin and then being locked out of now playing on the Switch, which they want to do. 

There was no warning that linking your account to the PS woudl lock all of your content you purchased out of other systems.

The only thing that should be locked to the PS4, Xbox or Switch, should be exclusive skins for said system. 



TranceformerFX said:

I don't understand. Not being able to access save files/progression across multiple platforms has been commonplace for literally decades. Why is it that Fortnite should somehow be exempt from this?

 

Like, I'm literally dumbfounded that this all of a sudden is a HUGE problem.

They lock a third party account that's the problem the progression can start on PC and get locked to PS4 as the only console if you log into PSN.



TranceformerFX said:

I don't understand. Not being able to access save files/progression across multiple platforms has been commonplace for literally decades. Why is it that Fortnite should somehow be exempt from this?

 

Like, I'm literally dumbfounded that this all of a sudden is a HUGE problem.

It's a problem because these are tied to a third party account DESIGNED to freely move across platforms.  And the issue is not that Playstation just blocks this.  No, it's that they will let you transfer in like all the other platforms BUT NOT OUT.  And they provide NO warning.  So you can freely move between Switch, Xbone, Mobile, and PC but the moment you transfer to PS4 it locks all your progress to PS4.  And so from then on it is PS4, PC, and Mobile.  No Xbone or Switch.  And again, no warning.  If Sony wants to block this, they should block it entirely.  Not lay a trap to try and force Switch and Xbone players to change to PS4 by holding their progress and purchases hostage.



KLAMarine said:
EricHiggin said:

Another way Larry could have put it:

If you plan to play PUBG on PS4, just wait a little longer... You haven't been able to play and continue to be left out because we used our software, resources, and financial strength to keep the game off the PS4 platform, knowing full well that since Bluehole could only launch on a single console initially, we weren't going to let that be PS4. We also just acquired a bunch of studios, but not Bluehole, because we are pro consumer if you haven't noticed. 

PS on the other hand, has locked down Fortnite accounts to the PS4 platform, and won't allow cross play or cross accounts. They did however refrain from locking the game down completely so that all other possible platforms could play and enjoy the game as well. If you haven't noticed, they are super anti consumer!

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You make a very valid point. Microsoft's abduction of PUBG was scummy. That does not absolve Sony of anything either and right now, as it should always be, it's about playing these two against one-another to get what's best for the consumer or at least punish anti-consumer moves.

I'm ok for allowing it at this point in time since I feel payback is necessary sometimes to let your opponent know if they want a war they'll get one, a brutal bloody one, but if they smarten up and want peace, then we can talk. If PS just rolled over and let XB get away with what they wanted initially this gen, and throughout, it would be everybody complaining about XB right now and not PS.

"You either die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Last gen this was XB and this gen it's slowly becoming PS. Until PS feels that they and XB can legitimately compete and can also come to a certain agreement where both have equal opportunity, I don't see the need for PS to back down. MS is a massive company and has many ways they can more easily branch out XB in the future to possibly outgrow PS if they really get serious, so it's not as simple as coming to terms on just console gaming as it exists now.

We can all hope though, that both companies can find a way to co exist more peacefully and allow for cross platform play. This would no doubt be a great win for gamers and could be a big ticket item next gen. If PS is smart, even if they wouldn't mind allowing cross play now, they will wait to announce it sometime around the launch of PS5 and use it for good PR, much like 'This is For The Players'. I can only see that however, if PS5 launches well before XB Scarlet info is officially revealed. Otherwise they will wait to see what XB presents for next gen before they open the gates, just in case they need it to remain closed to stay competitive in the face of whatever XB brings to the table.

I would say best case scenario for Fortnite at the moment, is maybe a one time minuscule payment to get the account off PS4 for good, or PS allowing a secondary account to cross platform with primary content but all purchases must remain on the primary PS4 account. I do also think that Nin might not like that though. Hard to say. If there are a tonne of PS4 and Switch dual platform owners, that's a bunch of micro transaction money that Nin may have to do without if PS4 allows the content to cross over.



Nuvendil said:

You are way over complicating this.  Epic wanted Fortnite on the PS4 because it has 80 million users.  Sony said, we want the accounts used on this platform tied to this platform and if you don't like it you can fuck off.  And they capitulated because Sony controls over half the console userbase and Fortnite was locked in intense competition with PUBG.

Sony is top dog, they have extremely powerful leverage.  And MS and Nintendo can't do shit about this.  The only thing to be done is what Nintendo did: request that accounts associated with Switch are not permitted to go to PS4.  And no, Sony needs NO ONE'S permission.  So drop the Nintendo and MS are accomplices BS.

Sony used its position of market dominance to pressure Epic into this deal.  Period.  End of story.  Stop trying to justify or spread the blame where it doesn't belong.

I am laying the blame EXACTLY where it belongs.

You just as much an ANY ONE ELSE here can't answer a simple question, or rather you do answer it when you say Sony is market top dog so it's their way or the highway for Epic. In other words you have NO CHOICE but to admit that Sony did not block anything, Sony ASKED Epic to block the game and here is the part you are ignoring and rather bury your head in the ground than face up the fact: Epic AGREED to it, they must have or the game would not be blocked.

Doesn't matter that Sony is top dog, the fact remains that Epic AGREED. If you are going to blame Sony because they are top dog then you must blame every other company that is top dog in any business because they will do exactly the same. When you are underdog you just shut up and follow the trend, when you are top dog you MAKE the trend, end of story. The others do EXACTLY the same when they are top dogs which is look to their own interest.

You guys are whining about what capitalism is. What's the matter, did you forget the video games industry is just an industry and the brands are there to make money. You TOTALLY can blame this on Sony but by the exact same logic you must blame them too for NOT LETTING The Last of US or Spiderman or any other exclusive be published on other platforms, then you must blame Nintendo for not letting Zelda be on Xbox and Playstation too cause they are abusing their position to release that game on Nintendo only.

So just as exclusives are in the interest of a company and not the consumers, wanting to NOT do cross-platform play is in their interest BECAUSE they are top dog obviously. Also HOW is this a surprise to ANYONE? Sony announced months ago that they were not going to do cross-play, what did you guys think? That they were going to magically forget their own words and forget about keeping their environment shut?

Sony is guilty of this decision YES, ABSOLUTELY but Epic is ALSO guilty. They could have refused, Sony would have A HUGE LOT to lose if the world's MOST successful game was pulled off the Playstation, imagine millions upon millions of PS4 Fortnite players seeing their account shut with some message from Sony going: Sorry people we just don't want to have the most successful game in the world on our platform anymore". The backlash Sony is taking right now is NOTHING compared to the backlash of pulling Fortnite off Playstation. Epic could have used that kind of pressure on Sony, instead they chose to simply AGREE with Sony.

So my final words are: I don't have a problem with people blaming Sony as Sony is obviously the ones who wanted this, I have a problem when people do not think past their nose and think Sony is this kind of Illuminati that is the center of all guilt and that the others like Epic have nothing to do with this. I am not happy about this anymore than I'm happy about exclusives. I'll never play Ori and the Blind forest because I don't have an Xbox and they BLOCK the game on the Playstation but that's how it is, end of story.

You have to be smarter than those companies, you heard months ago they don't want cross-play, either make an account on the PS and play Fortnite there only or if you don't like it make an account on another platform. I don't like AAA full prices, if I'm going to pay for a game 60 or 70 euros and a few months later the game is sold for 20 euros should I whine?  No, If I want to pay 70 euros it means I agree to the price if not then I wait till they sell it for 20 euros which is what I do cause I don't buy into the full price bullshit.

Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 18 June 2018