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Augen said:
I am fine with this and what I wanted Nintendo to do. Unified library and ability to choose to play on my couch or on the go.

Its unified because they abandoned the home console market. I'm not a fan of it.



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The way I see it, for this concept to work, the way the Switch was designed was likely the best way to do it. Having the power be divided between the dock and tablet or extra power in the dock I feel wouldn't work as well. I think this was the best way to do it. It just seems just a different way to play games rather than Nintendo 'quitting' the home console business.



 

              

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teigaga said:
DonFerrari said:

Ok then... but if the dock only allows for more power from Tegra, we can still call it handheld with better capability on the dock... any notebook have performance choices and it improves when using poweroutlet.

But each passing new after the reveal seems to suggest less powerfull than expected.

Really? my laptop (not notebook) has several power options but none of them are exclusive to being plugged in to a power outlet.

Either way a notebook is a notebook, which is still a laptop, which is still a PC... If we loose the semantics here, I think what people are really expressing is their disappointment at its suspected specs. But Nintendo didn't  need the Wii to be portable for it to be weak AF. I think it's a weird to debate whether it's X or Y when Switch can clearly function as both.

My laptop still performs better on the power outlet even if both are settled on the same configuration on battery, but that may be confirmation Bias.

I don't quite understand your second point.

Because the counterpoint that notebooks connect to tv, PSP and PSVita (even if needed PSTV or PS4 streaming) connected to tv or got console games to mobility, clearly would negate that only because you connected switch (as handheld perception) to a TV doesn't make it a home console.

bunchanumbers said:
Augen said:
I am fine with this and what I wanted Nintendo to do. Unified library and ability to choose to play on my couch or on the go.

Its unified because they abandoned the home console market. I'm not a fan of it.

Yes that is the biggest concern...

I would be a lot happier if they just made a three product line, simple handheld, simple console and switch... all three running the same games on different levels and people choosing which they preffer without paying premium for what they aren't going to use.



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bunchanumbers said:
Augen said:
I am fine with this and what I wanted Nintendo to do. Unified library and ability to choose to play on my couch or on the go.

Its unified because they abandoned the home console market. I'm not a fan of it.

All about perspective I suppose.  If I can play it on my television with a traditional controller as has been shown that is a home console option to me.

After the Wii and Wii U were behind their competitors in terms of horsepower the idea of generations became blurred in regards to Nintendo.  The Switch looks to be a leap over the Wii U like the Wii was to the Gamecube. Marginal with a focus on new style of playing rather than being far more advanced.

Personally I'll take the Switch over have to buy a Wii U level handheld and a PS4 level home console from Nintendo.



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Well, I said for some time I expect Nintendo to leave home console business. Having the handheld attachable to the TV is actually a good solution. Although it is not impossible, that in two years (then the normal cycle is up) Nintendo is releasing a homeconsole or a more powerful dock for Switch. That possibility I wouldn't count out.



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Agreed. It's a tablet and not a traditional home console. The Wii U was probably their last. It will be interesting to see how it does sales wise. It's something different for sure.



DonFerrari said:
teigaga said:

Really? my laptop (not notebook) has several power options but none of them are exclusive to being plugged in to a power outlet.

Either way a notebook is a notebook, which is still a laptop, which is still a PC... If we loose the semantics here, I think what people are really expressing is their disappointment at its suspected specs. But Nintendo didn't  need the Wii to be portable for it to be weak AF. I think it's a weird to debate whether it's X or Y when Switch can clearly function as both.

My laptop still performs better on the power outlet even if both are settled on the same configuration on battery, but that may be confirmation Bias.

I don't quite understand your second point.

Because the counterpoint that notebooks connect to tv, PSP and PSVita (even if needed PSTV or PS4 streaming) connected to tv or got console games to mobility, clearly would negate that only because you connected switch (as handheld perception) to a TV doesn't make it a home console.

bunchanumbers said:

Its unified because they abandoned the home console market. I'm not a fan of it.

Yes that is the biggest concern...

I would be a lot happier if they just made a three product line, simple handheld, simple console and switch... all three running the same games on different levels and people choosing which they preffer without paying premium for what they aren't going to use.

The PSP and PSV aren't designed around this philosophy. When is a streaming box a streaming box instead of a gaming console? Or a gaming console a console instead of a streaming box?

These semantics are not scientific, it's all just marketing and intended use. What is the definition of a home console?

My point is no one cares what title these boxes fit under, they care about function. The NS functions as a console and that's built into its control scheme and hardware choice. The thread "Nintendo "has quit console gaming" is based on the NS not having a Gpu in its dock. As if people care whether it's in the dock or in the tablet, the real discussion is one of power, but the Wii and Wii U were both weak so I'm saying the discussion is kind of pointless.



Jranation said:

Good! It means that it will have Pokemon, Yokai watch, Monster Hunter that Japan will indulge in!

 

And if it is a handheld, then we shouldn't be comparing it to the PS4 and XONE Directly. 

yeah but the 3DS allready offered that before along owning a Wii U with its unique games and experience 



teigaga said:
DonFerrari said:

My laptop still performs better on the power outlet even if both are settled on the same configuration on battery, but that may be confirmation Bias.

I don't quite understand your second point.

Because the counterpoint that notebooks connect to tv, PSP and PSVita (even if needed PSTV or PS4 streaming) connected to tv or got console games to mobility, clearly would negate that only because you connected switch (as handheld perception) to a TV doesn't make it a home console.

Yes that is the biggest concern...

I would be a lot happier if they just made a three product line, simple handheld, simple console and switch... all three running the same games on different levels and people choosing which they preffer without paying premium for what they aren't going to use.

The PSP and PSV aren't designed around this philosophy. When is a streaming box a streaming box instead of a gaming console? Or a gaming console a console instead of a streaming box?

These semantics are not scientific, it's all just marketing and intended use. What is the definition of a home console?

My point is no one cares what title these boxes fit under, they care about function. The NS functions as a console and that's built into its control scheme and hardware choice. The thread "Nintendo "has quit console gaming" is based on the NS not having a Gpu in its dock. As if people care whether it's in the dock or in the tablet, the real discussion is one of power, but the Wii and Wii U were both weak so I'm saying the discussion is kind of pointless.

No, its about what it is. You can call a RV a house, but its not a house. This is a tablet. A 720p tablet. There is no scenario where a tablet is magically a home console.