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spemanig said:
onionberry said:
I think the nx is a family of devices, this is one of them.

If there was anything in the world that could make that seem unlikely, it would be this being true.

true. looks like your favorite sources were right, and tbh i'm really excited can't wait to see the final product. Some people are kinda mad as usual, but a handheld with this power is greatness imo.



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JWeinCom said:
jason1637 said:

The 3DS and Wii online is pretty bad but the Wii U has a solid online service. Its not as good as PSN or XBLive but its a decent online service. Also the reception of Pokken was a lot better than Sticker Star and there are people that enjoy sticker star. Pokken is doing really well. According to NPD it has already outsold SFV and Street Fighter is an established ip.

If the system sells well and is decently powered then the system will sell well. There is a rumor saying its only a little bit weaker than the xbox one which means third parties is still a possible. Since this is a hybrid it already a given that it will sell 20 million in Japan alone and 10 million here in the US.

There are Nintendo fans that only play consoles so by having a hybrid the hardcore console fans will buy, the hardcore handheld fans will buy, and so will the casuals.

Again, Pokken is not even the same genre, and has sold under a million copies.  Why exactly do you think that decisions regarding a 10 million + selling RPG franchise should be made based on a 1 millionish selling fighting game?  Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

"If the system sells well and is decently powered then the system will sell well."

Well ummmmmm... yeah if it sells well, then it will sell wel.  That's kind of a given.  If this rumor is to be believed, then the power will be significantly less than the XBox One.  And, if they do manage to get a customized Tegra chip that can produce XBox One level graphics in a portable form, while maintaining adequete battery life and heat production, then this thing isn't going to be cheap.   It is not a given that this will sell anything anywhere.  

How many Wii U fans are there that didn't buy the 3DS?  At the absolute most there are 15 million or so, assuming that EVERY Wii U owner did not buy a 3DS.  It's far more likely that the actual number is 5 million or less.  So adding the hardcore console fans to the handheld fans doesn't help much at all.  It will still sell about the same as a dedicated handheld would have sold.

As for the casuals, what about this rumor makes you think this would be any more appealing to casual gamers than Nintendo's stuff already is?  

Pokken selling close to a million on the wii u is pretty good. Yes its a diferent type of game bu pokemon fans are buying it. Its sold alot more than tekken on wii u.

I meant to say that if the nx sells well and is powerful enough third parties will make games for it if they sell.

It will be more appealing to casuals because it looks like a tablet that plays Nintendo games at home or on the go.



zero129 said:
Sh1nn said:

its tegra x1

Nvidia is providing the core technology that powers Nintendo's next generation NX console. Multiple sources have confirmed that the new machine is based around Nvidia's mobile-orientated Tegra processor, with development kits currently using the Tegra X1 chip found in the Shield Android TV console and the Google Pixel C tablet.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-nx-mobile-games-machine-powered-by-nvidia-tegra

Maybe the X2 chips wasnt ready at the time? this could also be why nintendo delayed the NX?.

To make a $400 + console?.... I really, really doubt it.

They've already been touting about power NOT being their primary focus, so you already know the answer to whether they were holding out for a new chip.



setsunatenshi said:
Soundwave said:
$300 isn't expensive if its a functional Android tablet too. Nintendo could fork the Android OS and make money off Android apps ... I think that's actually a huge part of the appeal to this concept to them.

$300 - iPad Mini, plays just iOS software only functionally as a tablet

$300 - Nintendo NX, plays Android games/apps, but also Nintendo games, VC, can double as a home console, has motion controllers.

Lots of parents may opt for the latter for their kids.

small problem though... according to Eurogamer there is no Android OS in the console but a Nintendo custom OS

I think Nikkei is correct on this one though. "Custom Nintendo OS" could still encompass a forked version of Android, Amazon already does this for their Kindle tablets and phone. 

Nikkei has been correct multiple times in the past (Nintendo making a 3DS XL, Nintendo making smartphone games, Nintendo funding a Seaman game ... that was true, the series creator confirmed this at Mr. Iwata's funeral, the game was never released). 



Soundwave said:
setsunatenshi said:

small problem though... according to Eurogamer there is no Android OS in the console but a Nintendo custom OS

I think Nikkei is correct on this one though. "Custom Nintendo OS" could still encompass a forked version of Android, Amazon already does this for their Kindle tablets and phone. 

Nikkei has been correct multiple times in the past (Nintendo making a 3DS XL, Nintendo making smartphone games, Nintendo funding a Seaman game ... that was true, the series creator confirmed this at Mr. Iwata's funeral, the game was never released). 

That seems a lot of wishful thinking, but I do agree they should have just gave in and put android on it, go the full path, but:

"Another source said the system would run on a new operating system from Nintendo. It won't, contrary to some earlier rumours, simply run on Android."

That should have specific advantages too, if they want to customize their software to take better advantage of the hardware.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but 1 thing seems certain, it's a handheld replacement. I thought that would be the case for a long time now, but these news pretty much confirm it.



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If this is true, I'm not even considering it. Nintendo is already making be feel anxious about considering a purchase, but these rumours are only making me more skeptical.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Sh1nn said:

WiiU - 176GF
360 - 240GF
Xbox One - 1.3TF
PS4 - 1.8TF
Stock Tegra X1 (NX) - 512GF

But that Tegra X1 is at 20-25watts only.

Nintendo could have "overclocked" it and use say 40watts or so, when its in its docking station.

It could probably be in the 650-700 GF range, if they simple overclocked the hell outta the chip, and gave it better cooling.

 

It would still be weaker than a Xbox One, or a PS4, by roughly only being half as strong, but it would still be a big upgrade from the Wii U in terms of power.



zero129 said:
GOWTLOZ said:

NX is powered by Tegra X1 according to the article, as it will be too underpowered to handle FF VII Remake.

But if NX is like this then I can see it selling very well in Japan and with the right games and price I may buy it.

That Tegra X1 is a pretty powerful chip that no dev has made any game just for it and is playing PC ports with its current batch of games.

I have a feeling if it is this chip and not the X2 that Nintendo is using (I really do think it ill be the X2) it wont just be the normal version, but instead a custom more powerful one or one that will scale its clock speed when hooked up to a power source.

Tegra X1 has a processing power of 1 Tflops, which is a lot lower than PS4's 1.8 Tflops. FF VII Remake already looks like it is pushing the PS4 hardware. Even if overclocked it would be less than required. I don't know if Tegra X2 exists yet xD



When you try to make a device that combines two world, you have to nail it or otherwise it would be a mess. Nintendo learned that with Wii U, and because the Eurogamer article is so scarce with details, I can't see how it will work.

That mock-up with the portable and the detachable controllers details what appears to be a tablet, otherwise the controllers would be tiny. That doesn't go well with portability. And at the same time, those controllers may be smaller than a wiimote, so I'm sure how comfortable they'll be while playing with the device connected to the TV.

I'll wait until Nintendo unveils the damned thing to make a final decision, but so far it doesn't appeal to me.



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Soundwave said:

The detachable controllers could be motion wands, they could have some kind of new control input that encourages people to gather around the LCD display and play together. 

Sounds right up Nintendo's ally. Just because it's not what you wanted doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. 

For a lot of people if you described the Wii concept to them in 2004, it wouldn't make sense because no way would Nintendo make a console with a vertical single hand controller with little/no graphical update to the GameCube, no dual analog, etc. etc. etc. 

Alright, smart guy. If this thing is supposed to be a console portable hybrid, how is someone supposed to play their motion games on the go?

It doesn't make sense.