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Ka-pi96 said:
1. Revenge of the Sith - 10/10 - Just a fantastic movie in every way.

2. Attack of the Clones - 9/10 - Not quite as good as ep 3, but still a brilliant movie.

3. The Empire Strikes Back - 8/10 - Good film with lots of good moments

4. Return of the Jedi - 8/10 - Some really good parts, but the stupid annyoing ewoks cost it 3rd place.

5. A New Hope - 6/10 - Some good ideas and characters, and some which aren't so good.

6. The Phantom Menace - 5/10 - Has more downs than ups, but still an enjoyable experience.

What order did you see the films? For example I saw Episodes 4-6, then 1-3 years later.



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Someone mentioned it and it made me realize it as well, Phantom Menace does feel the most "Star Wars-y" of the prequels. I think one of the biggest complaints about the prequels (besides the acting and CGI [I personally never had a problem with CGI]) is that while they retain the title Star Wars, they dont really "feel" like Star Wars movies. Instead they feel like someone wanting to imitate the Star Wars style. I really don't know what it is but PM does feel like a Star Wars movie (even if you dont like it, I personally like it a lot). But idk XD just a random thought I had to add to the discussion.



1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. Return of the Jedi
4. Revenge of the Sith
(You can't see it, but the distance between 4 and 5 is pretty long)
5. The Phantom Menace
6. Attack of the Clones

John Williams' score makes The Phantom Menace's existance not a complete loss. Same thing goes for Christohper Lee's presence in Attack of the Clones.



#1 - The Empire Strikes Back

#2 - Revenge of the Sith

#3 -  Return of the Jedi

#4 - The Phantom Menace

#5 - A New Hope

#6 - Attack of the Clones

If we count everything Star Wars, the 2D animated series of Clone Wars takes my number 2 spot.



mZuzek said:
Just saw this thread now, and @ OP, man you hate the prequels, huh. Come on, no need to be so harsh. 

I dislike them and certainly enjoyed next to nothing about them.  I don't know about hate, more disappointed than anything, they just felt like there was no passion in them.  I am not saying others to not enjoy them, but it is curious to me that a decade ago it felt like everyone loathed them and now I see a generation that enjoyed them so I was curious about age and experience of people with the series. Mine being adoring the old film growing up and disliking the new ones.



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1. Empire Strikes Back. A perfect sequel to a great film. Develops the characters further, adds to the story and lore, up the ante on effects and action scenes, much better direction, writing, acting, and music. One of the best films ever made.

2. A New Hope. A fantastic thrill ride from beginning to end. Likable characters, well paced, well shot, decently acted, and an incredible climax. Not to mention that it changed movies forever, and without it we would never have gotten movies like Alien, Blade Runner, the Star Trek revival, and too many other films to count. Held back only by a few oddities here and there, Leia's strange accent, and Luke's complaining in the first act.

3. Return of the Jedi. Though it has the feeling of a creativity drought here and there, the film still manages to be a great final film of the original trilogy. What the film lacks in character development, it makes up with character moments. It has the best confrontation between Vader and Luke, and has the best visual effects in the entire series. Jabba the Hutt is a fantastic villain, and a marvel of practical effects and puppetry. But it also has the Ewoks, and the beginning of Lucas' desire of making things Toyetic.

4. The Phantom Menace. It's really hard to find good things about this film. But, it still has a little bit of that flare that were in the original films, and still has a slight spark of the fun as well. The Pod Race scene is great fun, and can be pretty exciting. The final light saber duel is also quite spectacular, and fun to watch. Other than that, the characters are boring, and completely disinterested in what they're doing. The story is a jumbled mess, that hardly makes any kind of sense. The effects are cartoonish, and not convincing in the least. And as a whole, the movie is just boring. At least the music is fantastic.

5. Revenge of the Sith. Even harder to find good things about. Really, the only thing I can think of is the opera scene with Anaken and Palpatine. It was interesting, atmospheric, and actually added some to the lore. Oh, and Ian Mcdiarmid, he completely steals the show, hamming it up to the tenth degree and loving every moment of it. A joy to watch on screen, and the only character in the prequel trilogy to have some passion. As for the rest, a complete waste. George had three movies to get it right, and he never did. Stupid characters, action scenes that drag on and on becoming boring, character motivations make no sense, more stupid characters. This movie just makes me mad.

6. Attack of the Clones. No, there's nothing good about this one. At all. There is not a single good frame of this film. George took every opportunity to destroy the series he created, and every character within this film that was also in the original trilogy is ruined because of this film. But the biggest crime this film commits is that Christopher Lee, rest his soul, is completely wasted, and serves little to no purpose. I really despise this film.



1.)Return of the Jedi
2.)Empire Strikes Back
3.)A New Hope

There prequels are all meh. Not bad movies, but not great either.



mZuzek said:

Come on, Phantom Menace had a good Star Wars vibe going on and it felt like there was quite a bit of passion behind it. I can see how Episodes 2 and 3 would have felt soulless, but 1 wasn't at all.

I understand why an older person, who grew up watching the originals would be disappointed with the prequels, because they did change a lot, but embracing them for what they are is a better way to judge in my opinion. Clone Wars is garbage, yes, but the other two are solid movies.

My experience with watching Phantom Menace was a mix of confusion and irritation.  What is the conflict, who are we meant to identify with, why should I care about anything I am seeing.  Star Wars had a lived in world that felt real and lived in, from the characters to the ships.  Phantom Menace had no character to attached to or moments that stuck with me. When Qui-Gon died it should have been this dramatic moment, but the character left no impression and Obi-Wan's reaction was so artificial lacking any emotion in his fight that took me right out of what could have been powerful moment, like Obi-Wan sacrificing himself in a New Hope.

Star Wars are about heart, and that is what I failed to see or experience in Epsiodes 1-3.  I didn't care about Naboo or its people with this blockade or the parliament and voting procedure or the slaves that Annakin came from. I never really got why the republic was worth saving and the separtists or trade federation were so bad.  I saw a bunch of useless robots getting chopped up by Jedi and then fighting some clones. By the end I almost welcomed the Empire as dark helmet said "Evil will always triumph, becuase good is dumb".



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Long story short, I would put the films in the same order as the OP except with Phantom Menace above Revenge of the Sith.

1. Empire Strikes Back - A lot of the better parts of Empire are similar to New Hope's positives, so I'll focus specifically on how this compares to New Hope in particular. First, I appreciate the slight change in how the empire was portrayed. Palpatine as a Dark Lord controlling things from behind a hologram is more menacing than the odd military coalition implied in New Hope. The removal of Luke from the evolving romance between Leia and Han Solo, along with the full movie's length to work with, helped that aspect feel more organic. The movie also did a great job of making the Empire seem powerful, with the heroes losing their base, being betrayed, getting frozen in carbonite, etc. Plus, the acting was a touch better. My only real complaint is that the AT-AT is the most ridiculous attack vehicle ever devised. Giant Camel Mechs are silly even by Star Fantasy standards.

2. New Hope - A bit simple in some places, but still holds more than enough complexities in the story and presentation to study for years on end. I love the scenery in this movie, probably even more than in Empire Strikes Back. And though the characters fell into archetypes, it allowed for a more complex movie. The finale worked as well as it did because we had the hero, his robot buddy, his mentor's advice, an antagonist, Han Solo coming to the rescue, Leia on the ground, and Biggs's recent death. That's a minimum of half a dozen named characters necessary for that scene to work, and it was pulled off brilliantly.

3. Return of the Jedi - I do not mind Ewoks. Honestly, I find those little bastards terriying, and thought their inclusion kept the Endor setting from becoming repetitive. We'd already seen lots of firefights between humans with advanced tech, so throwing in aliens using melee weapons and elaborate traps made for a good counterpiece to the lightsaber duel and space battle. My main beef with Return is probably the first half hour. Though I enjoy this part by itself, it barely feels like it belongs in the same movie as the remaining 3/4 of the film. Also, the ending featured a bit too much switching between action scenes for my liking, a problem repeated in Phantom Menace.

4. Phantom Menace - I hardly need to explain why this movie is not my favorite, so I'll just explain why it's as high as it is. First, I feel that Anakin Skywalker was oddly better here than in Episode 2 and 3. I'm not exactly a huge fan of child actors, but the terrible Anakin dialogue in the prequels were a much better fit for a naive but promising nine year old than a a brooding young adult. Things like podracing and the Gungan battle against the droids were a bit long or mishandled at points, but added something new to the series while feeling like a kind of action possible in this universe. Also, I feel that some of the Obi Wan and Qui Gon scenes worked well. Seeing them talking, moving around, and fighting, I could easily believe that these two had been on many long journies together. The prequels' fight scenes are often flash over substance, but here they at least help convince us that these two know each other really well. Ultimately, I feel Phantom Menace is the only satisfactory part of its trilogy. Where Episodes 2 and 3 failed to be compelling portions of the overall arc, Phantom Menace at least gave the setup well enough so that Anakin's fall was still tragic.

5. Revenge of the Sith - This film was not that great, but at least Palpatine had a fair amount of screen time. He made every scene he was in more interesting, and had some of the better bits of dialogue. Hayden Christrensen and Ewan McGregor were actually getting better at their roles as Anakin and Obi Wan respectively. In the scenes where they had less dialogue, they had some good scenes where they expressed a fair amount of emotion through body language and facial expressions. And if you just want the cool action scenes, this one has a few of those. So Revenge is more bad than good, but has redeeming qualities.

6. Attack of the Clones - I dislike this movie for a number of reasons, but here are a few outstanding failures. First, a lot of the film felt unnecessary. Obi-Wan's investigations were given lots of screen time that should have been devoted to making the Anakin/Padme romance more believable. I don't want to see that very much, but considering how Anakin is basically the focus of this trilogy, he needed that screen time. The same applies to Jango Fett, Mace Windu, and so on. The story did not need them. But the worst part is Anakin's actions after his mother dies halfway through the film. He kills a village of Tusken Raiders. From that point on, the trilogy is largely redundant because Anakin has become a Dark Lord in all but name. He is a killer of innocents who is somehow treated as a swell guy by his love interest and comrades. From that point onwards, it was impossible to care about him.



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