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Intrinsic on 02 July 2015

2017 at the earliest. I'm leaning towards 2018.

And there will be only one PSfour. Not like the ps3 that had a slim and super slim. Reason for this is quite simple but yet a lot of people seem to not think about it.

PS3 launched with Chips built on a 90nm process and a board and cooling built to accommodate it. Shrinking from 90 to 60 to 40...etc gave it a lot of room to get smaller hence the two PS3 slims. With ps4 we started with a 28nm chip, not a lot of shrinking you can do from there



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enlightenedmaster on 02 July 2015
Intrinsic said:
2017 at the earliest. I'm leaning towards 2018.

And there will be only one PSfour. Not like the ps3 that had a slim and super slim. Reason for this is quite simple but yet a lot of people seem to not think about it.

PS3 launched with Chips built on a 90nm process and a board and cooling built to accommodate it. Shrinking from 90 to 60 to 40...etc gave it a lot of room to get smaller hence the two PS3 slims. With ps4 we started with a 28nm chip, not a lot of shrinking you can do from there

no way will PS4 SLIM release in 2017 or 2018

 

there are already rumors of PS4 SLIM and images and SONY needs the cost-cutting,its a waste debuting SLIM console after 5years as there will be no boost and will be waste

PS4 will still have SUPER SLIM like PS3 and PS2 as SONY needs it to get the final price under $199 and boost at the end of console's lifetime like PS2 and PS3

 

the two PS3 SLIM's were not only because die shrink but also because SONY wanted to cut-cost as did MICROSOFT with 360 SUPER SLIM to bring it to $149

from 28nm,you can easily co down to 7nm which PS4 will by the end of its lifetime



Cloudman on 02 July 2015

3 more years from now.



 

              

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JRPGfan on 02 July 2015

I hope soon, the sooner the better.
Lets get those APUs shunk and made cheaper :) and lets get some tiny PS4s.



Ryng on 02 July 2015

Sep-Nov 2016.



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Intrinsic on 02 July 2015
enlightenedmaster said:

no way will PS4 SLIM release in 2017 or 2018

 

there are already rumors of PS4 SLIM and images and SONY needs the cost-cutting,its a waste debuting SLIM console after 5years as there will be no boost and will be waste

PS4 will still have SUPER SLIM like PS3 and PS2 as SONY needs it to get the final price under $199 and boost at the end of console's lifetime like PS2 and PS3

 

the two PS3 SLIM's were not only because die shrink but also because SONY wanted to cut-cost as did MICROSOFT with 360 SUPER SLIM to bring it to $149

from 28nm,you can easily co down to 7nm which PS4 will by the end of its lifetime


I don't know how to break it to you man, but;

 

  1. Don't believe everything you see on the internet. 
  2. With exception to the PS3, every PS console got only one slim version, and all it its second to last year on the market. 
  3. If you think about how "slim" consoles are made, you will understand why the PS4 can only have one slim model. And why that model is a long way off. 
And ms were in the same boat with Sony llast gen too... They started off with 90nm processors too. Trust me, processor size is the primary determinant of console size. 

 

And LOL at ur belief that from 28nm you can easily go to 7nm... If we see a 7nm chip by 2025 that would be a technological breakthrough. You obviously aren't aware of all the problems and complications of die shrinks. 



Chris Hu on 02 July 2015
Intrinsic said:
2017 at the earliest. I'm leaning towards 2018.

And there will be only one PSfour. Not like the ps3 that had a slim and super slim. Reason for this is quite simple but yet a lot of people seem to not think about it.

PS3 launched with Chips built on a 90nm process and a board and cooling built to accommodate it. Shrinking from 90 to 60 to 40...etc gave it a lot of room to get smaller hence the two PS3 slims. With ps4 we started with a 28nm chip, not a lot of shrinking you can do from there


Agreed, also the PS3 super slim didn't really come about due to additional die shrinking they just rearanged the hardware inside the the PS3 slim to make it smaller.  Also making it a top loader saved a lot of space.



enlightenedmaster on 02 July 2015

Intrinsic said:

Don't believe everything you see on the internet.

you don't need to say that,everybody knows that

but in gaming almost everything gets leaked and almost all E3's for the last 5 years have leaked everything

 

even APPLE can't keep a secret these days,so that statement doesn't really mean much

With exception to the PS3, every PS console got only one slim version, and all it its second to last year on the market.

i don't really think you follow SONY and PLAYSTATION fully

PS2 got a super cheap version of slim,i understand it wasn't super-slim but it was almost a cheaper version of PS2 SLIM

If you think about how "slim" consoles are made, you will understand why the PS4 can only have one slim model. And why that model is a long way off.

NOPE,it wud be pretty close.

this isn't really a University laboratory where student are working on titght budgets

 

this is buisness and when you want to make profits,you make things happen

And ms were in the same boat with Sony llast gen too... They started off with 90nm processors too. Trust me, processor size is the primary determinant of console size. 

it isn't really abt MICROSOFT or SONY or PS3-360 being 90nm

 

more abt the way buisness has changed over the last 10 years and how much money there is today and what companies are having to do to stay comeptitive

 

PS4 will surely have a SLIM in 2016

and

PS4 SUPER SLIM in around 2019 before PS5 launch,thats a given





Mr.Playstation on 02 July 2015

Holiday 2016 ( I'm thinking something along the lines of a September release rather than a November or December release )



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Intrinsic on 02 July 2015
enlightenedmaster said:

Intrinsic said:

Don't believe everything you see on the internet.

 you don't need to say that,everybody knows that

but in gaming almost everything gets leaked and almost all E3's for the last 5 years have leaked everything

 

even APPLE can't keep a secret these days,so that statement doesn't really mean much

With exception to the PS3, every PS console got only one slim version, and all it its second to last year on the market.

i don't really think you follow SONY and PLAYSTATION fully

PS2 got a super cheap version of slim,i understand it wasn't super-slim but it was almost a cheaper version of PS2 SLIM

If you think about how "slim" consoles are made, you will understand why the PS4 can only have one slim model. And why that model is a long way off.

NOPE,it wud be pretty close.

this isn't really a University laboratory where student are working on titght budgets

 

this is buisness and when you want to make profits,you make things happen

And ms were in the same boat with Sony llast gen too... They started off with 90nm processors too. Trust me, processor size is the primary determinant of console size. 

it isn't really abt MICROSOFT or SONY or PS3-360 being 90nm

 

more abt the way buisness has changed over the last 10 years and how much money there is today and what companies are having to do to stay comeptitive

 

PS4 will surely have a SLIM in 2016

and

PS4 SUPER SLIM in around 2019 before PS5 launch,thats a given



Dude you are really difficult lol

- PS2 had only one slim console, but had different hardware revisions. Just like how the PS4 has already had a few hardware revisions. The PS3 is the first PlayStation console to have more than one slim version. Its the exception not the rule, and for good reason. 

 

- chip size is at the heart of a consoles size. It's jot about this being business or not, its about what is possible and what isn't. A 90nm chip doesn't just mean a bigger die, it means a bigger pcu (more power drawn which leads to more heat)  and bigger cooling solution. Dropping that to 60nm will allow you drop everything else too, which is why the PS3 got its first slim. A further shrink..... You get the idea by now. 

 

- I'll say again, it doesn't matter what Sony wants to make happen, it all boils down to what is possible. The PS4 slim will be based on a 14nm fab process at best or a 22nm fab process at worst. The people making the chips for Sony aren't even making any 22nm chips yet. And when they start, the console manufacturers don't get first dibs cause in the first year or two of any fabrication process yeilds will be low and thus chips will be too expensive. So they have to wait for the process to mature before they place orders.