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teigaga on 12 July 2015

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enlightenedmaster on 12 July 2015
Teeqoz said:
enlightenedmaster said:

nope,i don't gamble in real life nor on internet

 

22nm chip being made in 2008 means not much as PS360 cudn't have used them as SONY & MICROSOFT stopped outright investing in PS360 in 2009-2010

haswell,the first Intel 22nm chip came in at 2013

 

but this time Intel is already going to maka Canonlake 10nm in 2016-17 so we are not far off

 

4years to 2019 is good enough to get it into PS4 SUPER SLIM & XBONE SUPER SLIM


No, I mean the PS4 didn't use 22 nm chips even.

Haswell wasn't Intel's first 22nm chip. Ivy Bridge was, and it launched in 2012. PS4/XBO launched one and a half years later using 28 nm, not 22nm.

i know PS4 used 28nm

sorry i forgot that OVY BRIDGE also used 22nm,thats even better

 

PS4-XBONE not using 22nm is more of an AMD problem not SONY-MICROSOFT as they were are using 28nm in 2015

but they will be forced to step up their game now

 

they have already made plans for 14nm in 2016 so in the future they will do better



Intrinsic on 12 July 2015
enlightenedmaster said:
Teeqoz said:


Haha, okay, you wanna bet?

 

The first 22nm chip ever made was made in 2008. PS4 and XBO launched in 2013 with 28 nm chips, just to give you a little idea of how far off 7nm chips are in consoles. Yet you expect it to go from first 7nm chip ever in 2015 to PS4 super slim using 7nm in 2018/2019?

nope,i don't gamble in real life nor on internet

 

22nm chip being made in 2008 means not much as PS360 cudn't have used them as SONY & MICROSOFT stopped outright investing in PS360 in 2009-2010

haswell,the first Intel 22nm chip came in at 2013

 

but this time Intel is already going to maka Canonlake 10nm in 2016-17 so we are not far off

 

4years to 2019 is good enough to get it into PS4 SUPER SLIM & XBONE SUPER SLIM


And you just totally missed his point. 22nm chips were first made or sampled in 2008. 5 years later when the PS4/X1 was released they still came with 28nm chips cause that fabrication process is more mature and cheaper. 

Beacsue a new chip size is announced or even demoed doesn't in any way mean that everyone will be using chips built to that size a year or two later. 

Things just don't work that way. 



enlightenedmaster on 12 July 2015
Intrinsic said:
enlightenedmaster said:

nope,i don't gamble in real life nor on internet

 

22nm chip being made in 2008 means not much as PS360 cudn't have used them as SONY & MICROSOFT stopped outright investing in PS360 in 2009-2010

haswell,the first Intel 22nm chip came in at 2013

 

but this time Intel is already going to maka Canonlake 10nm in 2016-17 so we are not far off

 

4years to 2019 is good enough to get it into PS4 SUPER SLIM & XBONE SUPER SLIM


And you just totally missed his point. 22nm chips were first made or sampled in 2008. 5 years later when the PS4/X1 was released they still came with 28nm chips cause that fabrication process is more mature and cheaper. 

Beacsue a new chip size is announced or even demoed doesn't in any way mean that everyone will be using chips built to that size a year or two later. 

Things just don't work that way. 

not really

22nm were first researched complete in 2008,and they came into use 4 years later atleast mass market in 2011

back then there was no iPhone or Android boom and the electronics consumer market was still small small

that is totally unlike today

also difference between 28nm and 22nm isn't that big and even back then 28nm was a pretty big step up

 

So if 7nm are research completed in 2015 so by 2018 they shud be in mass market

this time around the market is totally different market with Apple,Microsoft,Samsung,Android,Google,Sony,etc being all in for it

 

i never said PS4-XBONE will surely use 7nm in 2019 but was saying it cud happen or not

as they have to reduce costs but at the same time at the end of the generation,they stop investing much into research



Intrinsic on 12 July 2015
enlightenedmaster said:
Intrinsic said:
enlightenedmaster said:

nope,i don't gamble in real life nor on internet

 

22nm chip being made in 2008 means not much as PS360 cudn't have used them as SONY & MICROSOFT stopped outright investing in PS360 in 2009-2010

haswell,the first Intel 22nm chip came in at 2013

 

but this time Intel is already going to maka Canonlake 10nm in 2016-17 so we are not far off

 

4years to 2019 is good enough to get it into PS4 SUPER SLIM & XBONE SUPER SLIM


And you just totally missed his point. 22nm chips were first made or sampled in 2008. 5 years later when the PS4/X1 was released they still came with 28nm chips cause that fabrication process is more mature and cheaper. 

Beacsue a new chip size is announced or even demoed doesn't in any way mean that everyone will be using chips built to that size a year or two later. 

Things just don't work that way. 

not really

22nm were first researched complete in 2008,and they came into use 4 years later atleast mass market in 2011

back then there was no iPhone or Android boom and the electronics consumer market was still small small

that is totally unlike today

also difference between 28nm and 22nm isn't that big and even back then 28nm was a pretty big step up

 

So if 7nm are research completed in 2015 so by 2018 they shud be in mass market

this time around the market is totally different market with Apple,Microsoft,Samsung,Android,Google,Sony,etc being all in for it

 

i never said PS4-XBONE will surely use 7nm in 2019 but was saying it cud happen or not

as they have to reduce costs but at the same time at the end of the generation,they stop investing much into research


What? The amount of nonsense you say is beginning to concern me....

No smartphone boom in 2008? Small difference between 28nm and 22nm? Research complete???? Stop pulling terms outta your ass and brandishing them as fact. 

Just to point out, if you take the exact same processor built on a 28nm process and make it on a 22/20nm process, you basically will be halving the size of the processor. That's not nothing. 28 to 14nm is reducing the processor size by 4. 

Anyways I think I understand how these chats with you will play out. But seriously, it would do you some good to properly educate yourself on these things and get your facts straight instead of just argue blindly on a forum.