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I love how these kind of threads always mention all the pros from one side, and completely ignore all the pros from the other...



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If the XBO wins Europe it'll win Global in 2015, so why not add that to your prediction. While you're at it you may aswell say that XBO will win the generation.



Ninsect said:

Surely this is a joke thread lol. 

Also "This gap will probably be around 5m by years end due to Sony's lower pricing in Europe."

I'm pretty sure XB1 is lower priced in most of Europe, it's getting sales pretty much everywhere.

Yeah, in the Eurozone both consoles are €400 however the Xbox One almost always comes with a free game where the PS4 only has these type of deals around the holidays. So the XB1 is the same price as the PS4 or cheaper than the PS4 in most parts of the Eurozone. Saying that the PS4 is cheaper than the XB1 in Europe (like OP) is simply false.



I could see the UK but the whole of Europe where some countries favor the PS4 in crazy ratios, that just won't happen.



Thanks jlmurph!

Why didn't you just go all out and say it'll outsell the PS4 in Japan?



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man-bear-pig said:

Next year the Xbox One will outsell the PS4 in Europe, and here's why:

1.) In January Microsoft are releasing details about Windows 10 and it's compatibility with Xbox and if early reviews are anything to go by then Windows 10 will be up there with Windows 7 in terms of popularity. These new Windows 10 users are going to want to get a console which runs Windows 10 in order to be familiar with one unified user interface and the associated benefits. This will also be greatly beneficial to Windows Phone but that's for another prediction thread entirely...

2.) Halo 5. The past 2 mainline Halos have both sold well over 2m copies in Europe and I see no reason why Halo 5 can't do the same and even exceed these given how positive the early multiplayer reviews are. With the decline of Call of Duty there is room for a Halo resurgence and I believe Halo 5 is the game to do it.

3.) I believe that after seeing how positive the reaction in the USA has been to their price cut, they'll try to lower their prices in Europe to be more competitive with the PS4 as it's currently significantly cheaper in most places. This will boost sales significantly.

4.) Forza. If reviews are anything to go by (which they are) then Forza is the best racing game hands down. As we all know Europe has a strong affinity for racing games and Xbox One is the place to be for these racing fans imo. Xbox One owners will get a pretty much guaranteed annual Forza game whereas PS4 owners will have to wait 5 or so years between Gran Turismo releases and that's too long for a lot of people. I can see a lot of the European PS4 early adopters jumping ship to Xbox One for this very reason.

5.) The decline of Nintendo. The Wii captured the casual gamer market in a big way last gen, and evidently these Wii owners arent transitioning to the Wii U this gen. This leaves the Xbox One as the go-to console for casual gamers this gen imo, as well as all the other gamers it captured last gen.

6.) Money. Nadella (new M$ CEO) has shown how much he values Xbox as an essential part of Microsoft by the money he's been spending recently to put Xbox back on track. Microsoft have ~$80bn in cash and they don't like being second in anything they do...go hard or go home. And they're going hard. Expect some huge money-hatted exclusives at E3 2015 and subsequent PS4 buyers remorse.

The main advantage the PS4 has in Europe in 2015 is the current userbase. As of the W.E. 6th December the PS4 currently sits at 6,809,438 units and the Xbox One is at 2,571,751 units, meaning the gap is 4,237,687. This gap will probably be around 5m by years end due to Sony's lower pricing in Europe. This 5m advantage will mean that the friends of PS4 owners may be swaying towards the PS4 instead of the Xbox One in order to play with their friends but I don't believe this will be enough to counter-act the points I've listed in favour of the Xbox One.

Thoughts? I'll bump this thread when I'm right. In the meantime call me crazy etc.


Nope, dont see it happening. Heres Why;

1) I dont see how windows 10 will affect Xbox one sales, not like windows 7/8 affected 360 sales. If anything, it may hamper the consoles sales depending on what is put in Win10

2) Halo 5 will be out at the end of the year, it will surpass PS4 that week/month but thats it. Unless a crazy bundle is announced with gift cards and free XBL i dont see how Halo 5 makes Xbox one continuously outsell PS4.

3) The only way they can outsell PS4 imo, no other way

4) Where did you get this info about annual forza from?

5) Nintendo is NOT declining, they just had a real bumpy/awful HD transition

6) Hahaha, Microsofts $80bn isnt for Xbox alone XD. But they wont go down without a fight

In truth they are the only company that can afford to make crazy deals like the AC bundle with destiny, a $50 gift card for $350 without having a hit on the company itself. Sony and Nintendo cant do that, not this early. So it may sound bad but they are the best company to be making these deals and being in this position IMO



itsFizz said:

Interesting.
1) I have never heard of anybody who buys a console based on the OS being similar to their PCs.
2) Halo could grow. But I don´t think it has much growth potential (10-20% Max).
3) Xbone already is cheaper than PS4.
4) People (the real sim fans) will be waiting for GT7.
5) ...Maybe
6) Yup MS will definitely buy every game on earth and thus win the gen. (You have to consider how much this would cost)

Edit: I can see MS grow in the UK battling it out with PS4. However Mainland will be different


1.) That's because there's never been a console with a similar OS to PC's besides Windows 8, and that only didn't boost Xbox sales because Windows 8 sucks.

2.) 20% on top of 2m in a market like Europe is still pretty huge. And to sell ~2.5m in Europe alone ALOT of Xbox's will have to be sold.

3.) Not in most European markets...

4.) Whataya mean real sim fans? Forza is a better racing sim...the reviews don't lie.

6.) I didn't say every game..but a few massive exclusives



HEHEHEHEHEHEH!
no.....
Even Wii U will beat it in the other 2 main EU gaming countries france and germany
no big games to really push the console
plus the pricecut was only for the holiday
xbox one is gonna drop like a rock in january



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Although you list some good points, you seem to think that Sony are going to stand about and watch.

I think MS has played a lot of cards, Sony has yet to have a price drop. MS has Halo, Sony has Uncharted. MS has Forza, Sony has GT7. MS has money but they aren't going to throw it around because they can, they still need to make profit. Buying 3rd party exclusives is going to cost them a lot more than it would cost Sony just because they have a smaller market share, believe it or not but Sony has the advantage.

X1 outselling PS4 in Europe, yes it's possible. Next year, no. Sony have to much momentum in Europe to be beaten next year and they are going to slack anytime soon. If MS can start to swing it in their favour then we could see a steady shift towards them.

I'm being serious but not sure if this a troll thread or not.



man-bear-pig said:

4.) Whataya mean real sim fans? Forza is a better racing sim...the reviews don't lie.

 


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