lol nope and I blame YOU haha

I will make clear statements ont he spin off label this game has

"the spin-off label" won't affect its quality at all

what it will affect is the sales of the games, in a negative way.

Based purely on the art-style and graphics style I'm going to say Versus. As you said it looks darker and kinda reminds me of FFVII's Midgar, which for me is a good thing. FFXIII looks more like X and VIII which, whilst good games, the art-style in them didn't appeal to me as much.

Gameplay-wise, I'm really not too sure as we really haven't seen much although the more I hear about XIII the less excited I am. I hope that doesnt happen with Versus.

Seraphic_Sixaxis said: Ah i get what you mean, so basiclly Dirge and X-2 are sequels in story but not in battle system? Well to be honest, the story is what really matters, not the gameplay when it comes to a sequel, which is why i deem dirge and X-2 sequels over spin-off's. However yes, Crystal Bearers, Versus XIII, Agito XIII and what not are not related to there main older cousins, making them spin off's, though that doesn't mean storyline nor gameplay well be any lesser to the likes of the numbered final fantasies, for example, i enjoyed dirge of cerberous more then i enjoyed both X, and X-2, and most normal based final fantasies. Just pointing that out.

I agree with you, I don't see the label spin-off to be derogatory. Heck, back in the Snes days, I enjoyed Mystic Quest much more than FFV, it was very good to me ;)

I also enjoyed Dirge of Cerberus, the game mechanics were pretty awesome, and the fights were astounding, especially the last one agaisnt Omega :D

 

I think you're stretching a little. Its not a spinoff. Each game is just an interpretation based on the crystal myth. The director's vision of what that myth is. Its not a prequal or sequal to any of the final fantasy XIII games. Its an entirely different game with an independant storyline. As different as final fantasy VII to final fantasy VIII. You only consider a spinoff if a game is from a game. If final fantasy versus XIII was a spinoff, then shouldn't they literally call it "final fantasy XIII versus" or "versus final fantasy XIII"?

Is kingdom hearts a spinoff because it shares some similiar elements to final fantasy?

Kingdom Hearts is it's own series, it shares nothing with FF except a few characters and the JRPG genre, it's differences are far more than any FF spinoff shares with the main series.

Tell me then, what do you consider to be a spinoff? 

Are you serious?

Maybe "being a spinoff" isn't that helpful but come on... being a Final Fantasy spinoff can never be that bad, especially if the quality of the game will be on par with a canon FF game, which can help it reach a canon FF sales.

Humm, I think it will depend on the overall perception of FF fans to the final build of FFVXIII.

FFX-2 didn't seem to be much affected by that label, even though it was more of a direct sequel to FFX, so it rode a bit on the impact of FFX.

Maybe FFVXIII will also ride a bit on the impact of FFXIII, even though they share nothing but the mythology of the Fabula Nuova Crystallis 

This thread showcases PS3/Nomura fanboyism to the max. How can anybody claim that Versus XIII will be better just based on a couple of CGI trailers & Nomura being the director? How could you like or hate Noctic based on the nothing that's been shown of him?

Final Fantasy XIII is made by the team that made FFX. It's already OUT in Japan and many people including me own the full version of the game. Yet you all know that versus is going to be better because it's got a darker feel? Kingdom Hearts style battle system is completely destroyed by Final Fantasy XIII, sorry Soriku.

yes I am being serious, deny it all you want

when gamers see "FFXIII" & then "FF Versus XIII" on the same shelf, one will be seen as a "side entry" & one as the "main game"

that is how perception works.

@Lestatdark

FFX-2 is compeltely different case, it has the words FFX & then a  2....signifying its a sequel

FFX sold 8 Million, it was a direct sequel to that with same characters & same world.

FF Versus XIII has different characters & a different world & a word before XIII, its not the main game like it or not & won't be seen as one by the majority of the public = lower sales than FFXIII