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Boutros on 03 October 2010

If Kirby is to reach 1 million LT, the FW will surely be higher than 400k. Because I really don't think it's the kind of franchise that will have legs.



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ElGranCabeza on 03 October 2010
trestres said:
ElGranCabeza said:
trestres said:
Nintendogamer said:
trestres said:

Finally Kirby... it will gather some points from now on, it has 11 days left.

Super Mario Collection will be big, I thought that it was a limited quantity item, but it looks like it's a limited time offer, with no production limits. It will sell whatever people buy, or whatever Nintendo ships.

This could be the biggest year for the Wii in terms of million sellers in Japan.

2006: Wii Play and Wii Sports
2007: Super Mario Galaxy, Wii Fit and Mario Party 8
2008: Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii and Animal Crossing: City Folk
2009: Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, New Super Mario Bros Wii and Monster Hunter Tri
2010: Wii Party, ????

Probable million sellers launched in 2010: Super Mario Galaxy 2, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Super Mario Collection, Mario Sports Mix and Donkey Kong Country Returns (this one depends on if its launched this year or not). FlingSmash I'd say no, because I don't see it as avery appealing item to the Japanese, even if bundled with the Wii Mote Plus.
What do you guys think?

If all those games make it to 1 million, it would be the year with the most million sellers launched with 6 games in total, and double the best year from Nintendo's first party games because they have been releasing 3 million sellers per year since 2007 (2006 didn't have enough time).

It looks like Nintendo is on their own now in Japan, so they will be releasing most of their remaining big guns without caring for the third party turds.


Iwata did say he Nintendo will ship more copies because of the fan determination.  The last story, rythm heaven, DQX are the 3rd party titles that will sell really well but wont be coming out this year.

Rhythm Heaven and The Last Story are 1st party. I can see Rhythm Heaven with a slight chance of hitting 1 million, but I wouldn't count on it. The Last Story won't hit a million either. Zelda: SS won't either and neither will Fatal Frame 2 Remake.

So Nintendo hasn't got any huge games coming out in Japan next year so far. I can't see Pikmin 3 hitting 1 million either, but I can see Wii Relax doing it, unless it flops like Wii Music (Hypothetical case where both come out next year). Next year is really Nintendo's last push for the Wii, but as you can see this year will be the last big push for the console.

Inazuma Eleven Break and DQX next year are pretty huge.


First of all, those are not games from Nintendo themselves, and that was my point.
Secondly, Inazuma Eleven Strikers, not Break like you said, will not be even close to huge. The genre has been changed from RPG to Sports, bad move by Level 5.
Thirdly, DQX will not come out next year.

Just because it's a sport title now doesn't mean it won't sell well. PES sells well and it's a yearly sports series.



ElGranCabeza on 03 October 2010
Carl2291 said:
trestres said:


First of all, those are not games from Nintendo themselves, and that was my point.
Secondly, Inazuma Eleven Strikers, not Break like you said, will not be even close to huge. The genre has been changed from RPG to Sports, bad move by Level 5.
Thirdly, DQX will not come out next year.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if DQX had been moved to the 3DS.


That would be a smart move by SE, but I don't think that'll happen.



trestres on 03 October 2010

 

@Boutros: I'd say Kirby games are all about legs in Japan. These are all the Kirby games that sold 1 million or really close to it there, for some reason the quote box has disappeared and game names won't appear, but you can check in the database.

1 N/A 106,872 N/A 106,872 106,872
2 N/A 90,779 N/A 90,779 197,651
3 N/A 81,686 N/A 81,686 279,337
4 N/A 73,323 N/A 73,323 352,660
5 N/A 60,756 N/A 60,756 413,416
6 N/A 36,917 N/A 36,917 450,333
7 N/A 28,283 N/A 28,283 478,616
8 N/A 23,562 N/A 23,562 502,178
9 N/A 19,687 N/A 19,687 521,865
10 N/A 16,281 N/A 16,281 538,146
11 N/A 18,694 N/A 18,694 556,840
12 N/A 13,519 N/A 13,519 570,359
13 N/A 16,301 N/A 16,301 586,660
14 N/A 19,021 N/A 19,021 605,681
15 N/A 17,284 N/A 17,284 622,965
16 N/A 24,865 N/A 24,865 647,830
17 N/A 28,261 N/A 28,261 676,091
18 N/A 20,933 N/A 20,933 697,024
19 N/A 18,227 N/A 18,227 715,251
20 N/A 14,387 N/A 14,387 729,638
Totals: 0 1,699,084 0 1,699,084

 

1 N/A 165,698 N/A 165,698 165,698
2 N/A 112,326 N/A 112,326 278,024
3 N/A 69,167 N/A 69,167 347,191
4 N/A 44,416 N/A 44,416 391,607
5 N/A 96,655 N/A 96,655 488,262
6 N/A 57,310 N/A 57,310 545,572
7 N/A 20,499 N/A 20,499 566,071
8 N/A 25,308 N/A 25,308 591,379
9 N/A 33,847 N/A 33,847 625,226
10 N/A 14,007 N/A 14,007 639,233
11 N/A 23,951 N/A 23,951 663,184
12 N/A 20,429 N/A 20,429 683,613
13 N/A 11,934 N/A 11,934 695,547
14 N/A 6,554 N/A 6,554 702,101
15 N/A 4,484 N/A 4,484 706,585
16 N/A 5,498 N/A 5,498 712,083
17 N/A 4,984 N/A 4,984 717,067
18 N/A 4,496 N/A 4,496 721,563
19 N/A 2,848 N/A 2,848 724,411
20 N/A 2,801 N/A 2,801 727,212
Totals: 0 1,100,322 0 1,100,322

 

1 N/A 187,172 N/A 187,172 187,172
2 N/A 70,940 N/A 70,940 258,112
3 N/A 58,948 N/A 58,948 317,060
4 N/A 33,609 N/A 33,609 350,669
5 N/A 28,265 N/A 28,265 378,934
6 N/A 28,092 N/A 28,092 407,026
7 N/A 30,362 N/A 30,362 437,388
8 N/A 23,227 N/A 23,227 460,615
9 N/A 20,546 N/A 20,546 481,161
10 N/A 18,235 N/A 18,235 499,396
11 N/A 7,506 N/A 7,506 506,902
12 N/A 13,373 N/A 13,373 520,275
13 N/A 7,274 N/A 7,274 527,549
14 N/A 6,644 N/A 6,644 534,193
15 N/A 6,261 N/A 6,261 540,454
16 N/A 5,775 N/A 5,775 546,229
17 N/A 5,305 N/A 5,305 551,534
18 N/A 4,931 N/A 4,931 556,465
19 N/A 4,581 N/A 4,581 561,046
20 N/A 4,133 N/A 4,133 565,179
Totals: 0 1,481,373 0 1,481,373  

 

1 78,801 262,280 N/A 341,081 341,081
2 64,864 99,137 N/A 164,001 505,082
3 56,077 53,752 N/A 109,829 614,911
4 44,567 49,581 N/A 94,148 709,059
5 36,465 51,806 N/A 88,271 797,330
6 33,223 80,391 N/A 113,614 910,944
7 32,504 143,777 N/A 176,281 1,087,225
8 35,961 159,100 N/A 195,061 1,282,286
9 45,389 85,527 N/A 130,916 1,413,202
10 80,424 28,541 N/A 108,965 1,522,167
11 57,324 12,666 N/A 69,990 1,592,157
12 90,789 7,379 N/A 98,168 1,690,325
13 133,295 6,457 N/A 139,752 1,830,077
14 110,763 4,835 N/A 115,598 1,945,675
15 37,599 3,742 N/A 41,341 1,987,016
16 24,299 3,046 N/A 27,345 2,014,361
17 19,797 2,983 N/A 22,780 2,037,141
18 17,414 2,962 N/A 20,376 2,057,517
19 17,009 2,905 N/A 19,914 2,077,431
20 15,902 2,790 N/A 18,692 2,096,123
Totals: 1,428,549 1,172,432 0 2,600,981

 

1 65,247 163,482 N/A 228,729 228,729
2 53,923 75,530 N/A 129,453 358,182
3 86,324 50,898 N/A 137,222 495,404
4 19,185 53,253 N/A 72,438 567,842
5 14,260 43,977 N/A 58,237 626,079
6 8,675 62,498 N/A 71,173 697,252
7 10,401 93,994 N/A 104,395 801,647
8 8,198 161,623 N/A 169,821 971,468
9 8,725 37,278 N/A 46,003 1,017,471
10 11,810 98,667 N/A 110,477 1,127,948
11 17,675 22,470 N/A 40,145 1,168,093
12 18,640 11,489 N/A 30,129 1,198,222
13 13,511 10,898 N/A 24,409 1,222,631
14 11,884 10,315 N/A 22,199 1,244,830
15 11,144 10,300 N/A 21,444 1,266,274
16 10,449 8,224 N/A 18,673 1,284,947
17 10,118 7,898 N/A 18,016 1,302,963
18 8,777 7,832 N/A 16,609 1,319,572
19 7,834 5,756 N/A 13,590 1,333,162
20 6,818 5,404 N/A 12,222 1,345,384
Totals: 819,018 1,053,614 0 1,872,632

 

1 N/A 252,997 N/A 252,997 252,997
2 N/A 130,728 N/A 130,728 383,725
3 N/A 71,084 N/A 71,084 454,809
4 N/A 47,077 N/A 47,077 501,886
5 N/A 33,854 N/A 33,854 535,740
6 N/A 50,508 N/A 50,508 586,248
7 N/A 48,475 N/A 48,475 634,723
8 N/A 24,094 N/A 24,094 658,817
9 N/A 11,577 N/A 11,577 670,394
10 N/A 21,182 N/A 21,182 691,576
11 N/A 21,002 N/A 21,002 712,578
12 N/A 17,186 N/A 17,186 729,764
13 N/A 19,901 N/A 19,901 749,665
14 N/A 15,080 N/A 15,080 764,745
15 N/A 10,775 N/A 10,775 775,520
16 N/A 14,309 N/A 14,309 789,829
17 N/A 13,693 N/A 13,693 803,522
18 N/A 14,196 N/A 14,196 817,718
19 N/A 16,220 N/A 16,220 833,938
20 N/A 14,990 N/A 14,990 848,928
Totals: 0 1,090,179 0 1,090,179

 

1 N/A 338,742 N/A 338,742 338,742
2 N/A 139,571 N/A 139,571 478,313
3 N/A 40,650 N/A 40,650 518,963
4 N/A 31,753 N/A 31,753 550,716
5 N/A 35,533 N/A 35,533 586,249
6 N/A 38,022 N/A 38,022 624,271
7 N/A 71,597 N/A 71,597 695,868
8 N/A 21,634 N/A 21,634 717,502
9 N/A 20,600 N/A 20,600 738,102
10 N/A 21,892 N/A 21,892 759,994
11 N/A 19,318 N/A 19,318 779,312
12 N/A 17,326 N/A 17,326 796,638
13 N/A 14,792 N/A 14,792 811,430
14 N/A 13,573 N/A 13,573 825,003
15 N/A 11,895 N/A 11,895 836,898
16 N/A 10,714 N/A 10,714 847,612
17 N/A 8,124 N/A 8,124 855,736
18 N/A 11,462 N/A 11,462 867,198
19 N/A 11,089 N/A 11,089 878,287
20 N/A 6,362 N/A 6,362 884,649
Totals: 0 1,028,822 0 1,028,822

 

1 N/A 209,975 N/A 209,975 209,975
2 N/A 68,595 N/A 68,595 278,570
3 N/A 45,859 N/A 45,859 324,429
4 N/A 27,066 N/A 27,066 351,495
5 N/A 20,757 N/A 20,757 372,252
6 N/A 22,078 N/A 22,078 394,330
7 N/A 22,984 N/A 22,984 417,314
8 N/A 21,634 N/A 21,634 438,948
9 N/A 50,889 N/A 50,889 489,837
10 N/A 53,355 N/A 53,355 543,192
11 N/A 62,659 N/A 62,659 605,851
12 N/A 18,749 N/A 18,749 624,600
13 N/A 14,253 N/A 14,253 638,853
14 N/A 8,395 N/A 8,395 647,248
15 N/A 7,225 N/A 7,225 654,473
16 N/A 5,654 N/A 5,654 660,127
17 N/A 6,982 N/A 6,982 667,109
18 N/A 4,231 N/A 4,231 671,340
19 N/A 6,190 N/A 6,190 677,530
20 N/A 5,148 N/A 5,148 682,678
Totals: 0 913,423 0 913,423  


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trestres on 03 October 2010
ElGranCabeza said:
trestres said:
ElGranCabeza said:
trestres said:
Nintendogamer said:
trestres said:

Finally Kirby... it will gather some points from now on, it has 11 days left.

Super Mario Collection will be big, I thought that it was a limited quantity item, but it looks like it's a limited time offer, with no production limits. It will sell whatever people buy, or whatever Nintendo ships.

This could be the biggest year for the Wii in terms of million sellers in Japan.

2006: Wii Play and Wii Sports
2007: Super Mario Galaxy, Wii Fit and Mario Party 8
2008: Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii and Animal Crossing: City Folk
2009: Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, New Super Mario Bros Wii and Monster Hunter Tri
2010: Wii Party, ????

Probable million sellers launched in 2010: Super Mario Galaxy 2, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Super Mario Collection, Mario Sports Mix and Donkey Kong Country Returns (this one depends on if its launched this year or not). FlingSmash I'd say no, because I don't see it as avery appealing item to the Japanese, even if bundled with the Wii Mote Plus.
What do you guys think?

If all those games make it to 1 million, it would be the year with the most million sellers launched with 6 games in total, and double the best year from Nintendo's first party games because they have been releasing 3 million sellers per year since 2007 (2006 didn't have enough time).

It looks like Nintendo is on their own now in Japan, so they will be releasing most of their remaining big guns without caring for the third party turds.


Iwata did say he Nintendo will ship more copies because of the fan determination.  The last story, rythm heaven, DQX are the 3rd party titles that will sell really well but wont be coming out this year.

Rhythm Heaven and The Last Story are 1st party. I can see Rhythm Heaven with a slight chance of hitting 1 million, but I wouldn't count on it. The Last Story won't hit a million either. Zelda: SS won't either and neither will Fatal Frame 2 Remake.

So Nintendo hasn't got any huge games coming out in Japan next year so far. I can't see Pikmin 3 hitting 1 million either, but I can see Wii Relax doing it, unless it flops like Wii Music (Hypothetical case where both come out next year). Next year is really Nintendo's last push for the Wii, but as you can see this year will be the last big push for the console.

Inazuma Eleven Break and DQX next year are pretty huge.


First of all, those are not games from Nintendo themselves, and that was my point.
Secondly, Inazuma Eleven Strikers, not Break like you said, will not be even close to huge. The genre has been changed from RPG to Sports, bad move by Level 5.
Thirdly, DQX will not come out next year.

Just because it's a sport title now doesn't mean it won't sell well. PES sells well and it's a yearly sports series.

Yet Sports games on the Wii don't sell as much in Japan. WE has barely crossed 100k once in Japan on the Wii. Plus WE was huge on the PS2, on current gen consoles, not anymore.



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Boutros on 03 October 2010

@trestres

Yeah I guess I'm wrong.

But since it will be the first Kirby game on the Wii, we can't really expect anything for sure at this point.



kopstudent89 on 04 October 2010
trestres said:
ElGranCabeza said:
trestres said:
Nintendogamer said:
trestres said:

Finally Kirby... it will gather some points from now on, it has 11 days left.

Super Mario Collection will be big, I thought that it was a limited quantity item, but it looks like it's a limited time offer, with no production limits. It will sell whatever people buy, or whatever Nintendo ships.

This could be the biggest year for the Wii in terms of million sellers in Japan.

2006: Wii Play and Wii Sports
2007: Super Mario Galaxy, Wii Fit and Mario Party 8
2008: Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii and Animal Crossing: City Folk
2009: Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, New Super Mario Bros Wii and Monster Hunter Tri
2010: Wii Party, ????

Probable million sellers launched in 2010: Super Mario Galaxy 2, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Super Mario Collection, Mario Sports Mix and Donkey Kong Country Returns (this one depends on if its launched this year or not). FlingSmash I'd say no, because I don't see it as avery appealing item to the Japanese, even if bundled with the Wii Mote Plus.
What do you guys think?

If all those games make it to 1 million, it would be the year with the most million sellers launched with 6 games in total, and double the best year from Nintendo's first party games because they have been releasing 3 million sellers per year since 2007 (2006 didn't have enough time).

It looks like Nintendo is on their own now in Japan, so they will be releasing most of their remaining big guns without caring for the third party turds.


Iwata did say he Nintendo will ship more copies because of the fan determination.  The last story, rythm heaven, DQX are the 3rd party titles that will sell really well but wont be coming out this year.

Rhythm Heaven and The Last Story are 1st party. I can see Rhythm Heaven with a slight chance of hitting 1 million, but I wouldn't count on it. The Last Story won't hit a million either. Zelda: SS won't either and neither will Fatal Frame 2 Remake.

So Nintendo hasn't got any huge games coming out in Japan next year so far. I can't see Pikmin 3 hitting 1 million either, but I can see Wii Relax doing it, unless it flops like Wii Music (Hypothetical case where both come out next year). Next year is really Nintendo's last push for the Wii, but as you can see this year will be the last big push for the console.

Inazuma Eleven Break and DQX next year are pretty huge.


First of all, those are not games from Nintendo themselves, and that was my point.
Secondly, Inazuma Eleven Strikers, not Break like you said, will not be even close to huge. The genre has been changed from RPG to Sports, bad move by Level 5.
Thirdly, DQX will not come out next year.


DAMN!! i didnt know inazuma was changed to a sports title!! That really is a bad move... wonder why the bad moves always end up on Wii??



Hero_time88 on 04 October 2010

No, the PSP has sold more than the Wii, and to be honest, I wonder if there are actually more active PS3 users at this point in Japan than active Wii users.

I have read some acticles that say that more than 50% of the Japanese Wii owners don't even touch there console anymore, and that was a year ago...

 



Carl on 04 October 2010
Soriku said:

I would, considering the creator himself reconfirmed it was on the Wii and said it wouldn't be too far out. Besides, DQ always goes to the system with the highest sales, and after the DS that's the Wii. That's not changing.

I wonder how much KH Recoded is gonna sell since it only has 117 points and comes out this week. The game got a 36/40 in Famitsu.

And how many times was Final Fantasy XIII confirmed to be a PS3 exclusive? Same now with Versus (Which will likely change very soon). Square-Enix's word on something should be taken very, very lightly this generation.

If DQ always goes to the system with the highest sales, then the series would remain on DS for X. It wouldn't go to Wii after the series has reached new heights on the DS. And after the DS, we all know the 3DS is going to destroy the Wii so...

Really. 3DS would be the best place for it to go right now. Not the Wii. I think that's why we've seen nothing from the game since it was announced personally... I guess we will see.



                            

Carl on 04 October 2010
Soriku said:

Horii is not the same as Square Enix.

Besides, by the time the DQ X is out I doubt the 3DS would have sold more than the Wii. This is DQ, it'll sell well.

Dragon Quest VII released on PS1
Dragon Quest VIII released on PS2
Dragon Quest IX released on DS

3DS would also continue the trend.

Isn't Horii employed by SE? lol

Anyway, pointless debating it right now. I suppose we will find out soon enough if it really is still a Wii game.