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S.T.A.G.E. on 09 December 2009

The 360 isn't losing it's appeal. Microsoft never expected the 360 make it as far as it has gone. They played their cards right this gen despite RROD, but besides that they are worthy of some sort of applause for keeping the gaming alive until Sony got their act together. Now we can enjoy great games on both systems. Microsoft's job isn't to constantly hold peoples attention, it's job is to survive having less worldwide demand than anything Sony puts out. It has done a great job of staying in peoples hearts and minds good or bad.



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radiantshadow92 on 09 December 2009
jesus kung fu magic said:
radiantshadow92 said:
well imo there is nothing microsoft can do...developers are working for games next year and sony just happened to have the bigger exclusive line up this year...i mean the 360 isnt leaving an open road, they came out with the MW2 bundle and the walmart *100$ off sale* deal in the same week and the ps3 still took xbox to school in sales....imo theres nothing microsoft can do , i even suspect that if they lower the price of the elite/arcade the ps3 will still be a run for its money, especially next year when it becomes profitable. although, thats not to say that the ps3 is going to win the console war, it still has long ways to go, and what goes up, must come down.

1.That was a walmart deal........MS had nothing to do with it

2.We (correct me if im wrong) dont track wal-mart sales.

 

1.it still adds to the point that even if 360 gets some sort of price cut ps3 will still give it a good run for its money (whether it was MS or not)

2.VGC should def. track walmart sales because walmart is the largest distributor in America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart and i am pretty sure that VGC took the walmart sales into account because it was mentioned as a factor in increase in a weekly analysis http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5846



radiantshadow92 on 09 December 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
The 360 isn't losing it's appeal. Microsoft never expected the 360 make it as far as it has gone. They played their cards right this gen despite RROD, but besides that they are worthy of some sort of applause for keeping the gaming alive until Sony got their act together. Now we can enjoy great games on both systems. Microsoft's job isn't to constantly hold peoples attention, it's job is to survive having less worldwide demand than anything Sony puts out. It has done a great job of staying in peoples hearts and minds good or bad.

+1



coolestguyever on 09 December 2009

Well they are really pushing NATAL. I think Microsoft is hoping that will give them the edge over PS3.



SnakeEyez on 09 December 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
The 360 isn't losing it's appeal. Microsoft never expected the 360 make it as far as it has gone. They played their cards right this gen despite RROD, but besides that they are worthy of some sort of applause for keeping the gaming alive until Sony got their act together. Now we can enjoy great games on both systems. Microsoft's job isn't to constantly hold peoples attention, it's job is to survive having less worldwide demand than anything Sony puts out. It has done a great job of staying in peoples hearts and minds good or bad.

Wow, I believe this is the first time I agree with S.T.A.G.E. Nicely put.



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nightsurge on 09 December 2009
radiantshadow92 said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
radiantshadow92 said:
well imo there is nothing microsoft can do...developers are working for games next year and sony just happened to have the bigger exclusive line up this year...i mean the 360 isnt leaving an open road, they came out with the MW2 bundle and the walmart *100$ off sale* deal in the same week and the ps3 still took xbox to school in sales....imo theres nothing microsoft can do , i even suspect that if they lower the price of the elite/arcade the ps3 will still be a run for its money, especially next year when it becomes profitable. although, thats not to say that the ps3 is going to win the console war, it still has long ways to go, and what goes up, must come down.

1.That was a walmart deal........MS had nothing to do with it

2.We (correct me if im wrong) dont track wal-mart sales.

 

1.it still adds to the point that even if 360 gets some sort of price cut ps3 will still give it a good run for its money (whether it was MS or not)

2.VGC should def. track walmart sales because walmart is the largest distributor in America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart and i am pretty sure that VGC took the walmart sales into account because it was mentioned as a factor in increase in a weekly analysis http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5846

1.  Not really.  It wasn't even a price drop.  It was a $100 GIFT CARD offer at ONE retailer in JUST the US (maybe Canada too?).  You still had to pay $200 to get the console, and the gift card had to be used on a separate purchase in only their store.  I think the fact that just from one retailer, with a few days of this GIFT CARD deal, it having almost rose enough in sales for the week to overtake the PS3 WORLD WIDE shows a very high demand for a potential real price cut.  I don't think the PS3 would stand a chance if the 360 Elite dropped down to $200 which is about what it should be.  Lets not forget that the 360 costs much much less to produce.  If MS wanted to, they could have chopped the price $100 this year along side the PS3 and crushed any momentum Sony could have gotten, but they are saving all their plans for next year with Natal.

2.  Walmart doesn't give figures, but VGChartz DOES estimate Walmart sales and include them in the totals.



radiantshadow92 on 09 December 2009
nightsurge said:
radiantshadow92 said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
radiantshadow92 said:
well imo there is nothing microsoft can do...developers are working for games next year and sony just happened to have the bigger exclusive line up this year...i mean the 360 isnt leaving an open road, they came out with the MW2 bundle and the walmart *100$ off sale* deal in the same week and the ps3 still took xbox to school in sales....imo theres nothing microsoft can do , i even suspect that if they lower the price of the elite/arcade the ps3 will still be a run for its money, especially next year when it becomes profitable. although, thats not to say that the ps3 is going to win the console war, it still has long ways to go, and what goes up, must come down.

1.That was a walmart deal........MS had nothing to do with it

2.We (correct me if im wrong) dont track wal-mart sales.

 

1.it still adds to the point that even if 360 gets some sort of price cut ps3 will still give it a good run for its money (whether it was MS or not)

2.VGC should def. track walmart sales because walmart is the largest distributor in America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart and i am pretty sure that VGC took the walmart sales into account because it was mentioned as a factor in increase in a weekly analysis http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5846

1.  Not really.  It wasn't even a price drop.  It was a $100 GIFT CARD offer at ONE retailer in JUST the US (maybe Canada too?).  You still had to pay $200 to get the console, and the gift card had to be used on a separate purchase in only their store.  I think the fact that just from one retailer, with a few days of this GIFT CARD deal, it having almost rose enough in sales for the week to overtake the PS3 WORLD WIDE shows a very high demand for a potential real price cut.  I don't think the PS3 would stand a chance if the 360 Elite dropped down to $200 which is about what it should be.  Lets not forget that the 360 costs much much less to produce.  If MS wanted to, they could have chopped the price $100 this year along side the PS3 and crushed any momentum Sony could have gotten, but they are saving all their plans for next year with Natal.

2.  Walmart doesn't give figures, but VGChartz DOES estimate Walmart sales and include them in the totals.

1.I respectfully disagree with the red, the rest was just practically facts. I stand behind my point, there are alot of factors when it comes to this...i realize that with a 100$ price cut the 360 would win console sales but.... for only 2-3 weeks tops, then the ps3 would slightly rise above in WW...i know past data doesnt show this, but 299$ is a hell of alot different then 399$.

2.thank you for clearing that up

 



Thechalkblock on 10 December 2009

Maybe Microsoft is putting some faith in Natal... Or maybe they just aren't financially/structurally ready to make any huge changes to the 360 to match the PS3. They already have a decent lead over the PS3, they still have some time to make some sort of come back.



arcane_chaos on 10 December 2009

I don't think The 360 lost appeal, it's just the the demand for the PS3 went sky high beacuse of it's price cut. I remeber when I bought my PS3 back in 2007 when it was $500(60 gb) many of my friends wanted a PS3 but it was just too expensive, many of them were waiting for a reasonable price cut, and now that the PS3 is more affordable with the great features that comes with make it a great deal, speacailly it's blu-ray player, blu-ray players nowadays(where I live) are heavily advertised, if you can pick up a cheap yet still a great blu-ray player like the PS3 with a great library of games it's a no brainer that people will by it



Squilliam on 10 December 2009

Well lets see:

I think things like the PS3s recent exclusives, Wifi, cost of live, relative price of the Xbox 360 vs PS3 = overstated relative to the actual difference they make.

The fact that the PS3 is the sequel to the strongest selling console of all times is understated.

Is the fact that Live costs a problem? Hell no! Its better than PSN and it has a better adoption rate amongst those whom really care about online gaming.

Is the fact that the PS3 got a few good exclusives recently a problem? Hell no because a lot hardly sold anything and you can measure your market impact from units moved not metacritic points acquired. The only big one is Uncharted 2 and thats not as big an impact as Gears of War so its still a large but not massive exclusive.

Is the fact that Xbox 360 doesn't come with wireless a problem? No because a lot of American homes have cable right next to their TVs and its online experience is still better and worth the extra money you'd pay for the adapter.

Is the fact that the PS3 comes with Blu Ray a problem? Nope because players come with remotes and people like remotes and these players with free remotes only really cost like $100-150 and they use far less power than the PS3 and are much quieter.



Tease.