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ultima said:
big_boss said:
ultima said:
PostModGuru said:
This is why I love living in America, because this act of banning games, movies, book burning, is completely against the freedoms inherent in my country's constitution. This is only a small example of what is wrong in countries like Russia and China. Freedom of expression is a human right. And although you may disagree with an idea, photo, video, whomever made it still has the right to do so and any person who wants to consume it also has the right to do so. Anyone who disagrees should try living in a shithole like communist china or the USSR. I don't think half of you who say that they agree that Russia has a right to do this could last a week in China with it's censored internet. That line of thinking is comparable to a religious extremist or fascist ideology. Adults should be able to consume anything; media, substances, ideas, etc. if the consumption is victimless. This just proves to me that Russia is still a third world country in terms of freedoms and still has a long way to go...

You really have no right to criticize a country you know very little about. What if someone walks into a bar in, say, Dallas and screams, "USA SUCKS!"? I'm certain he'll get beat to pulp (for exercising his freedom of speech, a fundamental human right). Or what about the Dixie Chicks case? Doesn't seem like America is that free after all...


It is free, the Dixie Chicks weren't thrown in jail for their views. They were criticized/hated for it and sales and popularity dropped like a rock but they still have freedom.

Didn't retailers boycott Dixie Chicks?

And what about the guy who screams, "USA SUCKS!"?


Retailers have the "right" to do so. The guys who beat the USA SUCKS guy get thrown in jail for assault.

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realill said:
I am not sure if it is actually banned. http://www.softclub.ru/games/game.asp?id=11721 official distributor site and they say it is on sale. http://www.ozon.ru/?context=search&text=modern+warfare&go=%CD%E0%E9%F2%E8 states it will be available for PC on November 19. I heard they cut out "No Russian" mission from Russian distribution and it resulted in a delay.

Still some people buying this game in Russia for PC and then download English version from Steam using code on the box. Since they want to play full game ;).

Oh back to the issue at hand. It is currently being recalled, where a new version will be released with the government's approval and that will exclude "No Russia". With that all said this still has the possibility of not being rereleased due to the fact that Russia and America are at war (in the game) and they would have to have Russia's approval.



 

@PostModGuru

Wow, would you lend me your nonsense generator machine you're obviously using? I'm loosing faith in humanity, please, tell me you're just a troll. Should I report you then? Nah, I guess I'm not, since this kind of trolling isn't bannable here ^_^

 

@realill

It wasn't cut out, it just has been disabled in PC version of the game, you may enable it legally if you want to.



Acevil said:
realill said:
I am not sure if it is actually banned. http://www.softclub.ru/games/game.asp?id=11721 official distributor site and they say it is on sale. http://www.ozon.ru/?context=search&text=modern+warfare&go=%CD%E0%E9%F2%E8 states it will be available for PC on November 19. I heard they cut out "No Russian" mission from Russian distribution and it resulted in a delay.

Still some people buying this game in Russia for PC and then download English version from Steam using code on the box. Since they want to play full game ;).

Oh back to the issue at hand. It is currently being recalled, where a new version will be released with the government's approval and that will exclude "No Russia". With that all said this still has the possibility of not being rereleased due to the fact that Russia and America are at war (in the game) and they would have to have Russia's approval.

I am not sure there are any goverment approval there. I believe retailers just playing safe side here.

 

I do not think Russian goverment controls video games much %).



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realill said:
Acevil said:
realill said:
I am not sure if it is actually banned. http://www.softclub.ru/games/game.asp?id=11721 official distributor site and they say it is on sale. http://www.ozon.ru/?context=search&text=modern+warfare&go=%CD%E0%E9%F2%E8 states it will be available for PC on November 19. I heard they cut out "No Russian" mission from Russian distribution and it resulted in a delay.

Still some people buying this game in Russia for PC and then download English version from Steam using code on the box. Since they want to play full game ;).

Oh back to the issue at hand. It is currently being recalled, where a new version will be released with the government's approval and that will exclude "No Russia". With that all said this still has the possibility of not being rereleased due to the fact that Russia and America are at war (in the game) and they would have to have Russia's approval.

I am not sure there are any goverment approval there. I believe retailers just playing safe side here.

 

I do not think Russian goverment controls video games much %).

Well, that may be true, since other means of getting games always exist, but what I stated is based on the what was originally said.



 

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Zucas said:

On note, I played through the level, did open fire, and made sure there was no one left.  And no I didn't feel sickened by doing any of it. 

Looks like you need the healing powers of New Super Mario Bros. Wii!

But yeah, I watched my brother play it and left. It was just very uncomfortable to watch people hooting and hollering over the fact that they're "killing" innocent people. "Awesome!" "Watch this as I knife them!" "Don't let him get away haha!" *Hi5's all around*

If that's cool, then I guess I should be content with being a geek.



Xen said:
After seeing all the bullshit that's thrown at Russia in the game, I'm not surprised.

I'm Russian myself, and I also refuse to play that piece of shit.

I thought u were from Israel?



I wouldn't blame them for being upset about it.

I personally didn't kill anyone until the people with guns showed up and started firing at me. Instead, I had fun shooting the environment until we made our way outside.

The luggage bags spewed clothes everywhere when you shot them, lol. I feel sad for the TV's too... I made sure every one was destroyed.



The Russians should actually be happy to be used as the bad guys.

Who doesn't want to be seen as a tough guy and get lots of respect?



Smeags said:
Zucas said:

On note, I played through the level, did open fire, and made sure there was no one left.  And no I didn't feel sickened by doing any of it. 

Looks like you need the healing powers of New Super Mario Bros. Wii!

But yeah, I watched my brother play it and left. It was just very uncomfortable to watch people hooting and hollering over the fact that they're "killing" innocent people. "Awesome!" "Watch this as I knife them!" "Don't let him get away haha!" *Hi5's all around*

If that's cool, then I guess I should be content with being a geek.

Well I have been playing NSMB Wii and it is quite healling haha.  Fun game with the right kind of difficulty.  Platformers is where the heart is at.

But when I play a game like MW2 I don't view myself as being the good guy or bad guy or shooting innocent people or not... I see it as digital animations and me controlling their actions.  It's not real so it is hard for me to personally feel like I am doing something wrong.  However, I do get the message the scene is trying to display and that is there is no good and bad in war.  Both sides do things that are sickening and morally wrong. 

 

Actually for the most part, I found the level to be more offensive to Americans, if anyone, because most Americans don't like to accept that their government (namely CIA) has doen some immoral unreputable things.  Things like this would be one of them (of course here there was another reason why it was going on haha).  But the level is their to make the point that both sides are going to do whatever it costs to win losing all moral obligations.  This is the reality of war displayed in a video game.  If you have a problem with this scene then why don't you have a problem with any video game that displays war.  Let's not be timely with our objections.