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He claims it would have been a different game, yet the only changes he can think of that would be needed are graphics?

Same game, different skin. That's all.



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Millennium said:
He claims it would have been a different game, yet the only changes he can think of that would be needed are graphics?

Same game, different skin. That's all.

Really? The physics, interaction with the enviornment, size, sound and voice overs, etc. of the game would have been possible on the SNES? No.



 

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Why are there so many people complaining in this thread? All he said was that the game would be DIFFERENT, which it would be. He didn't say it would be IMPOSSIBLE, like many other game developers say about their games....



scottie said:
TGolem said:
by the logic that scottie uses no matter how technically advanced a game is it could theoretically be reduced to a mere shadow of the real thing and made into an atari game that looks the same as every other atari game. that argument could be made for every game ever made but it holds no water at all because the game would no longer be as good and that's why we advance the technology in the first place, to make the games better.

 

You unfortunately missed my point slightly.

 

I said that I care not for graphics, but only that the gameplay etc are unaffected.

 

Obviously, the 360 is capable of playing Uncharted2 with some minor graphical adjustments but no change to the gameplay

Equally obvious, the babbage engine is unable to reproduce the gameplay of Uncharted 2.

 

Even more obvious, then, is the fact that there must be some cutoff. If we arranged all consoles in a line from least powerful to most, there must be one console that can reproduce the gameplay, levels etc of uncharted but with reduced graphics, and one less powerful console that cannot. The SNES has some excellent 3d games with a steady framerate, many enemies on screen and no problems with cutin distance - Super star wars Empire Strikes back landspeeder levels for example. I therefore propose that a game could be made that plays identically to Uncharted 2, with reduced graphics. It will obviously be able to store this on a consle, because the textures can just be simplified until it does. I would like this game pretty much as much as Uncharted 2. I'm not saying you have to, if you like games with good graphics then you shouldn't let anyone tell you that you're wrong.

 

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CGI-Quality said:
I don't see why people have gotten edgy in here. The man didn't say anything bad about another console, if anything he's cheer-leading his team's efforts with the console that they'll only be working on from here on out until the next PlayStation releases.

Frankly, I'm glad that we have exclusives like these. They remind me that there are devs WHO DO give a damn about their work and don't just care about the quick buck.

They have my respect, as does any dev who cares about quality 1st!

Because it's a Sony first party dev talking about a PS3 exclusive game and how much the PS3 itself helped the game be what it is.

That's just not fair!



                            

After bungie is porbably planning on making a PS3 game since they went to observe ND...
So in short PS3 FTW



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d21lewis said:
Honestly, do JRPG makers even realize how hard it is to save the world? That shit is impossible!

 

 

 

Are we talking about the same Super Nes that used Mode 7 scaling and rotation? The one that could only render flat surfaces in 3D and couldn't render hills and tunnels without the Super FX chip? The one that had Stunt Race FX and Starfox where you could literally count how many polygons the models were made of?



Wow i never knew this.



Played Uncharted 2 last night and.......THEY'RE RIGHT!

The cutscenes (but you can't tell they're cutscenes because they use the game's engine) are HD FMV's! I went back and watched some of them using the options screen. I said to myself, "Damn, these things are loading fast!" They shouldn't be able to load the environments, characters, and such in less than a second! They had to be videos.

The thing that really gave it away was the character skins. I'd be playing as Doughnut Drake or Chloe, and right in the middle of gameplay, they'd turn back into normal Nathan as something spectacular was happening, and then turn back into Chloe or Doughnut as soon as it ended.

With the amount of FMV and bonus cutscenes (at HD resolution, too), I know the 360 couldn't hold it all on one disc.

I was wrong.