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I disagree. That's the same logic that claims turn based combat is outdated, and shouldn't exist.

ANY game can be a great game. The rail shooter still has many hits left in it. Star Fox, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Sin and Punishment. These are all rail shooters.

What it comes down to is this.

I think you are absolutely 100 percent wrong. I think that I play good games. I don't play genres. I don't listen to "rap" music, or "rock" music. I listen to good music. I don't play "FPS" games, or "jrpg" games, I play GOOD games.

Believe it or not, Overkill is a good game. Other games in the genre will also be good in the future. Orta is a recent example of how a rail shooter can be AAA and better than most free movement FPS games, by having grand setpieces, innovative gameplay, fantastic graphics, and excellent, amazing boss battles.

After you've heard my argument, would you change your stance in any way?

Because you didn't state you completed the director's cut, in which case you didn't play the full game yet.

There is replay value there. Plus wouldnt you want thos 2 1/2 hours to happen over again to laugh more with other friends? that would take it to around 10-15 hours.

To my knowledge, none of those games you mentioned are "light-gun" shooters. You have some ability to move/dodge/execute maneuvers, so they're not so much castrated as they've had their tubes tied, so to speak.

Games like House of the Dead are like taking an existing musical piece and stripping it down to a supporting instrument's part and then calling that a new song.

The RPG example isn't entirely the same - it'd be more like taking a Final Fantasy game where you only fight the turn-based battles while the AI moved you around the map and talked to people for you.

If you went to see a movie at the theater and paid full price for it and it was over after 20 minutes but was still pretty good in that time, you'd actually be satisfied with that?

So you have a problem with SRPGS now?

Joking... but that is what SRPGS are.... more or less.

Either way I don't think a rail shooter is worth more than $20 maybe $30. Hard to believe a game like that cost the same as a quality adventure game.

HoTD:ok is a new title onto itself.. most arcade rail shooters are just that.. quick conversions.. so the companies have pretty much recouped their money in the arcade parlours and the home version is just cherry on the cake. Since this is a new title, recouping these costs is prolly higher- and will take longer. That explains the high price.

Im all for cheaper games, heck I dont think ANY game should be above $40, but given the quality of this title Im going to go with "sure". SEGA have been quite benevolent toward the wii offlate..so.. I'd rather pay them full price than capcom or nintendo.. both of which r swimming in turds of cash!

I for the most part agree. Which is why most of the other ones have performed better thus far. Though a price cut will make a difference.

To the people using UC as an example of a longer game I think that is sorta unfair. UC is the slowest railshooter I have ever played. Everything about it is slow paced from the camera movement to the zombies. Now I'm not ripping it apart, but it is a totally different kind of shooter.

To me the length of a shooter is less important that the replayability. That is why Ghost Squad sucks if you ask me, I never had any reason to want to play it through more than a couple times. In that way I think Overkill is worth it.

Despite thinking the game was worth it, I do think they should have lengthened it considering its full price. But I also think when one buys a rail shooter they should not expect more than a couple of hours of content.

To those who simply dislike rail shooters, thats fine, but I think to make it sound like those who do are settling for less is just missing the whole point. Rail shooters are like speed runs. They are meant to be practiced and perfected. Not run through from beginning to end like most FPS without caring about precision and perfection.

Maybe the problem is that Twesterm played the game while drunk. It might have lasted longer sober.

And if he and a friend took 2-1/2 hours to complete, that's 5 total person-hours of play time.

But seriously, this game is at least $10 overpriced. There is a $40 sweet spot for this type of game on the Wii.

Mike from Morgantown