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Kasz216 on 03 May 2009
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DKII said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
DKII said:

It's a castrated, outdated genre. Let's take a regular first-person shooter, disable movement for everything but your arms, and then wheel you around so you can shoot at random stuff. And on top of that for some reason the game is only a couple hours long, short even by shooter standards. If somebody seriously proposed that as a new concept they'd get laughed out of the room, but because some people have some nostalgia for the old days and the genre it's accepted anyway.

So-called light-gun games should never be more than a bonus mode of a real game.

 

I disagree. That's the same logic that claims turn based combat is outdated, and shouldn't exist.

ANY game can be a great game. The rail shooter still has many hits left in it. Star Fox, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Sin and Punishment. These are all rail shooters.

What it comes down to is this.

I think you are absolutely 100 percent wrong. I think that I play good games. I don't play genres. I don't listen to "rap" music, or "rock" music. I listen to good music. I don't play "FPS" games, or "jrpg" games, I play GOOD games.

Believe it or not, Overkill is a good game. Other games in the genre will also be good in the future. Orta is a recent example of how a rail shooter can be AAA and better than most free movement FPS games, by having grand setpieces, innovative gameplay, fantastic graphics, and excellent, amazing boss battles.

After you've heard my argument, would you change your stance in any way?

 

To my knowledge, none of those games you mentioned are "light-gun" shooters. You have some ability to move/dodge/execute maneuvers, so they're not so much castrated as they've had their tubes tied, so to speak.

Games like House of the Dead are like taking an existing musical piece and stripping it down to a supporting instrument's part and then calling that a new song.

The RPG example isn't entirely the same - it'd be more like taking a Final Fantasy game where you only fight the turn-based battles while the AI moved you around the map and talked to people for you.

If you went to see a movie at the theater and paid full price for it and it was over after 20 minutes but was still pretty good in that time, you'd actually be satisfied with that?

So you have a problem with SRPGS now?

Joking... but that is what SRPGS are.... more or less.