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CHYUII said:

Nintendon't (a name that Nintendo will never patent =-P)

Give me an example.

1. Teh Blast Processing!1!!

2. Genesis does what Nintendon't

3. It's cheaper (and fast!)

4. It's got attitude!

5. It had awesome commercials!



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
CHYUII said:
Smeags said:
CHYUII said:

What was great about it (at the time)?

It did what Nintendon't.

 

 

 

 

Nintendon't (a name that Nintendo will never patent =-P)

Give me an example.


 

It was more mature where Nintendo was more kiddy.

 

 

So do you mean that the games where more complexed or do you mean they had blood and violence in them?



d21lewis said:
I like Sega okay, but I don't think they can compete with the likes of Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. I think it'd be better if they somehow merged with Nintendo. Sega was always good at pushing their hardware, and creating innovative software, in general. Who else would have thought to push games like Crazy Taxi, Seaman, and Space Channel 5 on an unsuspecting public? It just takes too much to put a console on the market in this day and age.

 

 

Good points.

I remember critics raving over those games.



Ha those comercials are old. They claim sega was so much faster then nintendo but it was only marginal and can;t really tell with those 2d games.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
neerdowell said:
Sega was great because they were a software company first, and hardware second, just like Nintendo. Plus they were always more interested in making a console a gaming machine first rather than a multimedia center. They also have the first party strength to carry them, unlike Sony and Microsoft (although Sony is getting there). Their failure in the console business was not so much about producing bad consoles as it was about making stupid business decisions and never managing enough third party support.

They are starting to show some common sense as a company though, and third party publishers are starting to be more flexible to multi-platform releases. If one of the current console manufacturers dropped out (preferably Microsoft, because they really don't have a game that defines their console; Halo doesn't count because that is Bungie's work, not Microsoft's) and they re-entered I think they would stand a pretty good chance.

 

 

If Halo doesn't count in defining Microsoft as a system, Sony has no games either, which only leaves Nintendo who actually created their own IP's instead of creative devs under their name to make it for them.

Bungie had Halo in the works for the pc before Microsoft bought them and shifted development to the xbox as well, and the pc version still landed, meaning technically Halo was never a console exclusive. Plus Halo was based off of a few old games that came out for the Mac about a decade before I believe. Sony has many titles that have never appeared on any other console, or pc for that matter (God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Dark Cloud...too many to list).

 Plus, I'm not sure what you mean by creative devs underneath them. All publishers have multiple development teams underneath them, even Nintendo. It's just that Nintendo keeps the rights to those games, but it's not like there is this single development team named 'Nintendo' that makes all their games.



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CHYUII said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CHYUII said:
Smeags said:
CHYUII said:

What was great about it (at the time)?

It did what Nintendon't.

 

 

 

 

Nintendon't (a name that Nintendo will never patent =-P)

Give me an example.


 

It was more mature where Nintendo was more kiddy.

 

 

So do you mean that the games where more complexed or do you mean they had blood and violence in them?

 

 

' Lets just say they were more in tune with the realistic gamer even though they had their fair share of fantasy games.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
CHYUII said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CHYUII said:

I never owned a Seg System but I see a but of Undie-hard on this sight who still cry-out for Sega to make another Game System. WHY!?

What was so great about Sega Systems that makes you think they deserve another chance?

 

 

Sega still has gaming in them. They are still making games which could be much better put to use as first party for their own systems. Sega, like Nintendo made their own first party; however, most of the games weren't kiddy. The Dreamcast was the most complete system, which just so happened to lack the DVD format.

First party party Sega franchises: Virtua Fighter, Virtua Cop, Virtua Tennis, Sonic, Crazy Taxi, Shenmue, Daytona USA, Jet Set Radio, House of the Dead and much more.

 

 

 

 

Was Shenmue good?

I alway like the look of Virtua Fighter in the Arcades.

 

 

Shenmue was amazing. Sega lives today through Microsoft whom were huge fans of their work. They even stole the Dreamcast concept for the original Xbox system and still are using the concept for the Xbox 360 controller. Sega was owning the Arcade market during the 2000 period.

I am glad you confirmed that. I had heard that the X-Box had similarities with the Dreamcast but I did not know if I could trust the source.

No doubt about the arcades though. There old machines still inhabit remaining arcades.

 



neerdowell said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
neerdowell said:
Sega was great because they were a software company first, and hardware second, just like Nintendo. Plus they were always more interested in making a console a gaming machine first rather than a multimedia center. They also have the first party strength to carry them, unlike Sony and Microsoft (although Sony is getting there). Their failure in the console business was not so much about producing bad consoles as it was about making stupid business decisions and never managing enough third party support.

They are starting to show some common sense as a company though, and third party publishers are starting to be more flexible to multi-platform releases. If one of the current console manufacturers dropped out (preferably Microsoft, because they really don't have a game that defines their console; Halo doesn't count because that is Bungie's work, not Microsoft's) and they re-entered I think they would stand a pretty good chance.

 

 

If Halo doesn't count in defining Microsoft as a system, Sony has no games either, which only leaves Nintendo who actually created their own IP's instead of creative devs under their name to make it for them.

Bungie had Halo in the works for the pc before Microsoft bought them and shifted development to the xbox as well, and the pc version still landed, meaning technically Halo was never a console exclusive. Plus Halo was based off of a few old games that came out for the Mac about a decade before I believe. Sony has many titles that have never appeared on any other console, or pc for that matter (God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Dark Cloud...too many to list).

 

Doesn't matter. Companies like Microsoft and Sony gain control of the IP's though it was from the developers creativity. If Microsoft doesn't get Halo then technically speaking Nintendo is the only company who made its own IP's.

 



neerdowell said:
Sega was great because they were a software company first, and hardware second, just like Nintendo. Plus they were always more interested in making a console a gaming machine first rather than a multimedia center. They also have the first party strength to carry them, unlike Sony and Microsoft (although Sony is getting there). Their failure in the console business was not so much about producing bad consoles as it was about making stupid business decisions and never managing enough third party support.

They are starting to show some common sense as a company though, and third party publishers are starting to be more flexible to multi-platform releases. If one of the current console manufacturers dropped out (preferably Microsoft, because they really don't have a game that defines their console; Halo doesn't count because that is Bungie's work, not Microsoft's) and they re-entered I think they would stand a pretty good chance.

 

 

Well being a Nintendo Fanboy, i have seen my share of bad decisions so I understand how the games and system can suffer from bad management and dumb 3rd parties.



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