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elgefe02 on 07 April 2009

I am liberal too... But I am not atheist, on the rest we share the same ideas



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Bursche on 07 April 2009

And...? Its more of a social norm to be liberal now than conservative. It's on the rise. Try being a conservative, you'll have a lot harder time being accepted because you are generalized more than liberals are.

Let's see my list:

Pro-Life
Protestant
Pro-Gay Marriage
Pre-marital sex is fine
War should be used only in extreme circumstances, but we should have a strong military in times of peace
I believe in real equal rights for everyone, but know there are limitations
I'm 19 and I drink

Now: I am religious but I do not force my views on others. I do not hate Pro-Choice people, but will argue to the end of the earth with them. I am not rascist, or a "flag mongerer". George Bush to me is a bad president, but he is not the worst our country has ever seen by a long shot. Obama has potential, McCain would've been so much better though. I am not a follower of Fox News. And I am not the steriotypical conservative.

Believe me, I'd rather be generalized as a "hippy socialist" because everyone knows that's ridiculous instead of a "rascist warmongerer who wants the rich to be richer", which is just as ridiculous, and yet educated liberals spew this same garbage.

So certain liberals, quit calling the kettle black.



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highwaystar101 on 07 April 2009

Thanks for the kind words guys, makes me feel a bit better that at the end of the day that we can put politics aside.

Also about the gun thing, I'm not against banning guns, just more stringent control over guns...

also, thanks for posting halogamer



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Slimebeast on 07 April 2009

90% of ppl in Sweden are liberals (or share all the views that Wessle Woggle listed). It gets very one-sided and that makes me sick. I feel most liberals are members of the fifth column.



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WessleWoggle on 07 April 2009
Slimebeast said:
90% of ppl in Sweden are liberals (or share all the views that Wessle Woggle listed). It gets very one-sided and that makes me sick. I feel most liberals are members of the fifth column.


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akuma587 on 07 April 2009
largedarryl said:
Domo-Kun said:
What freedoms do liberals want to supress

I'm a liberal, and agree with Mafoo.  The only difference in the 2 party US spectrum is both parties have different ideas behind what right they want to restrict.

Left wingers restrict right by forcing Catholic churches to marry gay and lesbian couples, something I am opposed to (not the gay/lesbian marriage part).  I'm sure I could come up with many more, but maybe we should clarify what countries government we are discussing because these detailed issues vary from country to country.

 

This is blatant misrepresentation.  No church has ever been forced to marry a gay couple.  Liberals might like it if churches would recognize these marriages, but they aren't forcing them to.  And I would like you to show me evidence that they have attempted to force them to do so on any kind of organized basis.

Marriage can take place completely outside a church and no one is forcing churches to recognize gay marriage.  Marriage is a civil institution as much or more as it is a religious institution.

 



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Slimebeast on 07 April 2009
WessleWoggle said:
Slimebeast said:
90% of ppl in Sweden are liberals (or share all the views that Wessle Woggle listed). It gets very one-sided and that makes me sick. I feel most liberals are members of the fifth column.

 

What did I do now?

lol sorry I mixed u up with highwaystar101. 

 



Domo-Kun on 07 April 2009
akuma587 said:
largedarryl said:
Domo-Kun said:
What freedoms do liberals want to supress

I'm a liberal, and agree with Mafoo.  The only difference in the 2 party US spectrum is both parties have different ideas behind what right they want to restrict.

Left wingers restrict right by forcing Catholic churches to marry gay and lesbian couples, something I am opposed to (not the gay/lesbian marriage part).  I'm sure I could come up with many more, but maybe we should clarify what countries government we are discussing because these detailed issues vary from country to country.

 

This is blatant misrepresentation.  No church has ever been forced to marry a gay couple.  Liberals might like it if churches would recognize these marriages, but they aren't forcing them to.  And I would like you to show me evidence that they have attempted to force them to do so on any kind of organized basis.

Marriage can take place completely outside a church and no one is forcing churches to recognize gay marriage.  Marriage is a civil institution as much or more as it is a religious institution.

 

 

 What's funny about this, is somehow the tables got turned from "allowing gays to get married" to "the Catholic church is being repressed by being forced into marrying people that they don't want to."

 

I still haven't seen any evidence or clear examples that liberals suppress the rights of anybody.



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pichu_pichu on 07 April 2009

Liberal here as well.