Well then, you must know something I don't. Because with a $100 price cut, I don't see how they can improve the bottom line much. The software sales are still anemic, and that's where all the profit is supposed to come from.

Dude, that IS what the company is doing. They were more focused on the format war with the creation of the PS3. They might be focused on gaming now, but it's all m00t if the PS3 price is out of everyones reach.

Well then, you must know something I don't. Because with a $100 price cut, I don't see how they can improve the bottom line much. The software sales are still anemic, and that's where all the profit is supposed to come from.

There was a thread on the Sony section of this forum about it and I am talking about the 80Gb which is $599 not the 60GB as we and I already know is costing Sony out the ass. It is the reason it has been discontinued.

i still have yet to find anything on them reducing it to break about even, i find them trying to but no cigar, and would removing emtion engine etc really reduce by 200 bucks?

If you can find a source id like to see, though ill sort of believe you anyways

I will get you the source when I get home. I am at work at the moment and can't really spend hours searching for the source. I have it saved on my home computer.

@Final-Fan
"Only the PS3 isn't selling slower than the GC (and I want to see numbers to prove me wrong Soriku)"
"the PS3 has tracked relatively closely to PS2 sales"

Seriously mate, you can't do this on a sales site.

In America, the PS3 is selling worse than: the GC, the Xbox, the 360 and obviously the PS2 (all we have data for).
http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GC&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=XB&reg3=America&align=1
http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=DC&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=X360&reg3=America&align=1
http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=America&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=DC&reg3=America&align=1

Lol nice ishy

 /hi five

 the blu-ray diode price drop cut costs $100 dropping the EE cut it another like $40, the 80GB PS3 only costs Sony $60 to make, the 60GB if it wasn't discontinued would have cost Sony maybe around $100. Its may not have been recuded by 200 to break even but switching to the 80GB model they surely have cut loses.  

where does every one get the better than the 360 after 9 months, thats not right, they are practically the same. now if you do a region specific analysis, its doing much worse than the 360 in NA, about the same EU. So, it is winning in JP, now the question becomes which is worth more NA, or JP.

i went more in depth in an earlier post .

I forgot that it didn't launch in America and Europe for that long. All I did was throw PS1, PS2, PS3 WW into Compare Consoles and click Align Launches.

So I retract the statement about PS2, but this should not be confused with a refutation of my main points.

The PS3 is, in fact, selling better at this stage of its life than the 360 was. See previous posts.

Let me repeat this: Thank you all for correcting me. I did not realize/remember that VGChartz lacked European data for last gen consoles. This does not in any way invalidate the main points I have been arguing, and in fact I made no claim that the PS3 was selling even remotely like the PS3 until my recent, disastrous, visit to the Hardware Comparison Chart. I also stand corrected on the GC numbers.

[EDIT: OH SNAP! RETRACTION RETRACTED! THANKS JOHNSOBAS!

[What does everyone have to say now?]

[edit2:  Turns out that the PS3 is only beating the PS2 until the latter FINALLY got around to all markets, which I had forgot it took so long to do.  So that part is re-retracted -- FOR REALS!] 

@goddog

As I said in my post the PS3 is losing in its best market (Japan), whereas the 360 is still leading its best market (America). The 360 also built a 6 million unit lead which would keep them ahead for 5 years at the current rate. Right now, things look undeniably better for the 360. You may think its future is gloomier than the PS3's, and that things are going to improve for the PS3, but that's your opinion.

Also... going from "unquestionable market leader" (PS2) to this (PS3), does look much worse than going from "new rookie that did not so bad" (Xbox) to this (360).

In this industry, success is measured on three things:

1. Profit. The 360 is not pulling profit and honestly can't expect to for a few years. Billions of dollars will be lost by Microsoft because of hardware failure

2. Hardware units sold. At the rate it's going, the 360 would be lucky to break 35 million over the course of its life. It's at under 11 million in 22 months.

3. Living up to the hype and/or exceeding it. The 360 was hyped. A lot. And as the successor to the high powered xbox it should have sold plenty more. It doesn't have to sell MORE per sé. But being in the general ballpark is a must. The 360 failed to do that.

The 360 has failed on all three fronts.