Granted both of them will be aweso... *looks again at Sims 3* ...uuuuhm..... good, but those 2 games have really heavy competition qualitywise with games from other platforms.

Of course they will have huge sales, but we all know that a game with incredible sales is not necessarily the best. (Don't misinterpret this sentence. Like I said SC2 and Sims 3 will be good)

But you don't like raiding so you won't raid right? There are hundreds of quests. Sorry, well over 3000 quests in the game with all the expansion, over 1.5k in just vanila WoW for Alliance only, there's also a lot of Horde quests. Yes some are simple and fed-ex, but there are a whole bunch of epic ones. So your only excuse for bashing WoW is that it's so damn good that it ruins the lives of people with pathetic willpower? You are really getting desperate here.

As for Zelda being an RPG, please.... there's no skills to advance there's nothing you do to your character at all, you are just following a set storyline with set quests, a story. It is an adventure game through and through.

#linlhutz

I'm really rooting for the Wii this gen because I really want MS and Sony how retarded they were for scratching and trashing the only features that made consoles worthwhile over the PC. I want my damn bug-free, glitch-free, drop-in-tray-and-play games dammit.

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@Barozi

I doubt anything will come close to the quality of SC2 and Total War, and Sims has been selling millions so I don't know how you can argue the quality of that title.

almost every genre of gaming has adventure elements built in, but that doesn't make them adventure games, zelda is more action RPG than adventure on the percentage of the game play integrated in it. btw PC games usually have more creativity vs HD consoles because you can't take chances on games with HD consoles these days, don't judge a book by it's cover, PC games have long went past the ZOMG GFX! era by now, to us, that is nothing new, we'll always get the best looking games that are multi-plat already and more. and MPCs>consoles for multimedia by far, that won't change anytime soon /shrug .

in zelda games, levels are not all based on numbers, you health increases by getting more heart containers, you get more abilities and skills by getting items, and you get stronger attacks through other means, on top of better weapons, different armors, etc etc. it's very much a RPG.

No, don't even compare. An adventure game has a HUGE emphasis on puzzle/problem solving, and Zelda is nowhere near that. Adventure games also have almost no combat, which Zelda certainly have. The most noticable part is that Adventure games possess strong narratives and are very story-centric, which Zelda isn't.

Zelda is clearly from the action-adventure genre.

Nice attampt, but all of those you get by advancing through the story line. Like in adventure games, you get a key to open a new door. The combat is also disturbingly weak in Zelda for it to be called an Action RPG, for its own sake don't ever classify it as such because then it is a miserable and utter failure.

That was a joke with Sims 3. It's not 100% my type of game, but I can accept that it's considered as great for other gamers.

it's not an attempt, it's a fact, that's how all JRPGs work in general, just with a twist. maybe you are more acustomed to WRPGs so you can't see that.

I think that's kind of a flawed line of reasoning.  It's like saying "You don't like materia so you don't have to use it in FF7."  It's kind of true, but I'm guessing that's setting up a lot of problems down the line.  The fact that every WoW player I know spends most of their time raiding kind of indicates that's an important part of the game for equipment and the like.  It may not be a strict requirement but rather an unspoken one and I'd like to avoid something like that.

And yes, I will always dislike things that hurt my friends.

JRPGs are not RPGs, I've been saying that forever. They are a mix between a Turn Based Strategy and an Adventure game. Zelda is heavily story drive, you have absolutely no decision in your choices of abilities/equipment. Just put on the better sword/armor when you reach that milestone in the adventure.

@Words

Yes, but they want to have their awesome gear and they want to spend their time raiding because they enjoy that. I also know a bunch of people who only raid if they ever get the time for it and a few more who raid an instance once just so they can see it then they never go there again. Raiding is only at the end-level and it sounds like you don't even like that, there's a LOT bfore you reach end-level content and that content shines in and of itself. It's not like materia at all in FF. You can use and do everything you want until you hit the content you don't like, which is at the very end. I perosnally loved the game a lot more and always took my time to read quests and dialogue while getting to 80.