Yea dude I know. I wanted to say graduate. or joinning too, but I just realized that when the topic was already on. Can't edit the title now =/

If you're a JRPG fan a Wii will become a must very soon. You may not like Wii, Nintendo or whatever, but not owning a Wii will restrict you in playing Japanese games and especially JRPGs.  I've posted some above and these were all anounced before the DQX announcement. DQX + MH3 will ensure a dominance of Wii in J-gaming for sure. In Japan Wii's console lead is biggest and developers will follow those titles.

Wii will never become the #1 system for Western games, but I expect nearly all Japanese games to go to Wii.

there is none, i have no reason to own a wii at the moment.

wii owner are delirious, there are only like 3 games that are real games on the wii every thing else can be a flash mini games and be played with a mouse.

I dont see why people say is innovative when i does not capture the position of the wiimote in most gome, like in the tenis games, you only have to move your wrist, and is very inaccurate.

Only zelda, mario and metroid are games i would play on the wii. I think that a game that a "gamer" would play have to require skills, and those games should try  to tell a story and give the player a purpose. Look at wii fit, what is that? most games i have see on wii can be pick up played 10 or 15 minutes and then let them go and forget what you did, that is not what i look for in a game, i want immersion, amusement, i want an experience that stays in my mind, that wakes me in my sleep. I think that is the reason to play video games other wise i would spent my time in other forms of entertainment.

Games use to disconnect gamers from this world, game like metal gear, and final fantasy have a story, games like tekken require skill, even GTA make you learn the city and you get better at the thing you do, and lest no forget zelda on the nintendo that had no map, those were the games the made me love video games.

When the wii come out there was the potential of shooter been more precise and games that really immerse the player into the story with the new gameplay, but no, the have taken more advantage of the fact that games could be played by anyone. i was hoping to see rpgs where you have to draw the spell to cast them, but no, there is no intention of using it that potential.

what game are out that are "hardcore" and require what the wii has?? i havent seen them, most that use the wiimote can be pc games and do the same thing with the mouse.

The first time i played a video game was in 1986 and i have loved gaming since that time, and right now i would rather get a ps360 100x, until there are more metroid, zeldas and old school nintendo games on the wii. The wii needs a shadow of the colossus, a gears of war, a god of war, a ninja gaiden, etc.

In my eyes, wii is like Pop music, some kind of christina agulera/ shakira only juke box, sure everyone likes it, so what ? is that really for everyone? not at all. Why cant i hear metallica, or ramstein? what about enya or asian dub foundation?

i said in another thread a hardcore gamer cant have only a wii or he is not hardcore, is like saying "am a hardcore racer but i only like mini coopers and i have no idea of how they perform, i just race them".

alright, fair enough, to each his own.  It's just that, to me, including that game as a big exclusive shows the lack of quality titles in store for the Wii.  but hopefully you are right and it's better than RE:UC (although I did like the story recaps because I hadn't played all of the REs).

As for liking the genre:  I think it can be really fun.  I have the top score in Area 51 ( the original) on several arcade machines...or at least I used to since I haven't checked lately.  I'd buy a port of that, but I'd need the controls to be more precise than UC.

No, I was saying Final Fantasy is the type of game that causes people to shift systems--either looking in the past, where it was a huge deal when VII became PS exclusive when Square left Nintendo, or to a potential and hypothetical future where if similarly XIV were announced for the Wii it would similarly cause peopel to shift consoles.

Wii Zelda may be highly anticipated--indeed, is certainly so--but the people who would be anticipating it are already in Nintendo's camp. You're not going to have very many 360 or PS3 owners switch to the Wii because of Zelda, because most of the people who look forward to any Zelda game are already buying Nintendo's systems. The same goes for the next Mario game, or Pikmin, or any established Nintendo franchise--you may get new people interested in the franchise, but I doubt a person who exclusively owns a HD console will shift their loyalties based on the latest game in a competitor's franchise. I mean, could the latest Metal Gear Solid or Halo or Gears of War or God of War make you shift from being primarily a Nintendo guy to primarily a fan of one of the other systems? No. It's the games you want going to the other system that does it, not the latest installment of something you're already inclined to be disinterested in it, no matter how big a franchise it is.

We'll see about JRPG's.  Square seems to be supporting HD consoles quite well.  If I bought a system for those I think it would be a DS.  The PSP is outselling the Wii right now in Japan and it's still quite a ways ahead of the Wii there, so I expect the PSP to get some as well.  Both handhelds are getting Kingdom Hearts, at least.

Certain HD-only console owners won't embrace the Wii, because they are too busy being angry at it.

@Jalsonmi: Ok, so should we add GTA4 to the list? And then we have to add FF13 and GT5 later... Most of the games on the HD consoles haven't performed up to their earlier installments. And, games like Madworld, Conduit, Deadly Creatures etc. don't count for being new IP:s.

@BrayanA: Oh, my bad. I thought you were a PC gamer for listing games that tend to show their strength on PC.

If you like to play football games before the match, why not pick up PES on Wii? Your commen was just about as stupid as saying: I like to play PES on my Wii before football game, while taking some beer, playing Lips with the same friends is just boring.

Good points Benga, but even if this does end up being the result in 2009, i still wont go Wii since for the very simple fact its not HD the Xbox 360 and PS3 are HD and in my case its as simple as that.

But when it comes to handhelds like the PSP and DS dont use this against me, since there "HANDHELDS" they have an excuse not having HD style graphics, the Wii has NO excuse this gen its just not right IMO.

Sorry but no matter what 3rd party support Wii gets from Japan, i'll just wait for a PSP or DS port since its quite easy to do.

And to be honest, i dont see it happen'n at all, Sony may stand by on the sidelines, but Microsoft will NOT allow Nintendo to get ALL the exclusives.

The RE storyline was what made me love RE:UC, but I agree with you that the gameplay wasn't great. I didn't like the crosshairs and it was a bit too slow. HotD is a much faster, far more arcadey experience.

I totally agree that Overkill isn't a game like RE, FF or CoD. It's not that big/AAA/anticipated etc franchise. But it does represent a type of game that is AND hardcore, mature AND pretty much unique for Wii.

Wii will pretty much be the console of the "niche" genres, like arcade shooters, JRPGs, Point & Click, Platformers, Puzzlers. These definitely ARE hardcore genres, they just happen to be dominated by the big games of the moment Shooters and WRPGs. That's why old-school core gamers don't have any problems with Wii, but gamers that started gaming on PS1 or PS2 often have.

One of my most wanted games for the year is Broken Sword. That it won't feature on many most wanted lists is unimported to me. It's a quality game in a great genre and very much suited to Wii controls.