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SamuelRSmith on 18 January 2009
JaggedSac said:
selnor said:

They could, but then Mac could still bundle IE.

From a business position if M$ were to include Safari or Opera, they would have every right to charge those companies to do so. At least some of the profit for every version. Its swings and roundabouts. I still put forward to you. EU is complaining about a free product that M$ provide, with their own product. I saw Hob Nob biscuits for Buy one get one free yesterday. I hope the EU sue Mcvities to.

 

LOL.  WTF is a Hob Nob biscuit?

 

 

 The best kind of biscuit out there. Oh my nosh, what I'd do for a hobnob right now. I'd kill for a hobnob, please ask me to kill for a hobnob.

 

EDIT: To answer your question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HobNob



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SamuelRSmith on 18 January 2009
selnor said:
SamuelRSmith said:
selnor said:
SamuelRSmith said:
selnor said:
SamuelRSmith said:
kowenicki said:
I urge you non-europeans to take the test I posted above and the see why the Brits (and particularly the English) are roundly pissed off with then European gravy train.

 

 Not all British/English people are anti-EU; just the ignorant ones.

 

 Um, all I can say is sod off. I'm English and entirely against the EU. I absolutely want no part of the EU. There are masses of reasons, but to give you an idea the EU police could take control of the country and there would be nothing the English could. Except we bloody would, If I had to defend my home as an English person for my English way of life I would do it to the death. 90% of English people feel that way.

Ignorance is not looking into the treaty and thinking everything is rosey with it. Look again. I very much want UK to stay clear of EU.

 

 90% of English people feel this way? Then why did 2.2% of the electorate vote for UKIP in the last election? They didn't win a single seat. (The BNP won even fewer votes... only 0.7% of the electorate).

It seems very apparant, to me, that the majority of Brits wish to remain in the EU. And so what if they do, or don't? Most don't have a clue what EU membership entails.

LOL BNP is long known as being highly racist in the past. BNP are a massively failiure political party. I would never vote for them. Tell me why then when Mr faggot Gordon Brown said he would not let the public vote on whether they sign the treaty did the public go absolutely insane. Every single paper we have here was against and for good reason. I'll list afew

EU will be able to sign new treaties with other countries on UK behalf without consulting.

EU courts can pass new laws for UK without consulting.

If needs arise EU police can come in and run the bloody country.

I'm sorry but you obviously live in a tiny pocket somewhere in the UK that missed the national uproar over Gordon Brown and the EU treaty.

Mr Cameron has promised us a vote and on this alone I will voter for him. EU talk about M$ monopoly. When EU is a monopoly on the most horrible scale. It's basically conforming Europe to one way eventually, it's World War conformity on the sly. The same thing just without the war.

 

 

 Because the public would be outraged by it, but that doesn't mean that the entire country is anti-EU, it's just that they viewed this as a direct attack on the sovereignty of Parliament, which it was. I didn't want the proposal to go through, does that make me anti-EU? No.

I certainly am against European Union. Europe as individual countries I love our brothers to bits. It's the Union itself that I detest with every last bone. EU is essentially a wolf in sheeps clothing. They are Hitler in a white robe. It's power hunger on the sly like I said. You mark my words.

 

 

An opinion isn't a general consensus. Whatever your personal views are on the EU don't necessarily reflect those of nation.



Dallinor on 18 January 2009

JaggedSac said:
selnor said:

They could, but then Mac could still bundle IE.

From a business position if M$ were to include Safari or Opera, they would have every right to charge those companies to do so. At least some of the profit for every version. Its swings and roundabouts. I still put forward to you. EU is complaining about a free product that M$ provide, with their own product. I saw Hob Nob biscuits for Buy one get one free yesterday. I hope the EU sue Mcvities to.

 

LOL.  WTF is a Hob Nob biscuit?

 

They taste so damn good!



 

selnor on 18 January 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
JaggedSac said:
selnor said:

They could, but then Mac could still bundle IE.

From a business position if M$ were to include Safari or Opera, they would have every right to charge those companies to do so. At least some of the profit for every version. Its swings and roundabouts. I still put forward to you. EU is complaining about a free product that M$ provide, with their own product. I saw Hob Nob biscuits for Buy one get one free yesterday. I hope the EU sue Mcvities to.

 

LOL.  WTF is a Hob Nob biscuit?

 

 

 The best kind of biscuit out there. Oh my nosh, what I'd do for a hobnob right now. I'd kill for a hobnob, please ask me to kill for a hobnob.

 

 Dude kill for a hob nob. LOL. They are so awesome. They are the master of the dunkers.

Sorry dude you really will kill now hey.



whatever on 18 January 2009
selnor said:
whatever said:
A lot of ignorance being thrown around in this thread. M$ is reaping what it sowed.
They deserve every fine they get. At least the EU has some balls unlike the current US administration that is bought and paid for.

 

 So if IE wasnt free with Windows how would you get the alternatives? I have never seen Firefox in any PC's shops round my way. So how would you download them?

So M$ cant sell their own product and give away free another product?

I guess all those companies who have ever done Buy one Get One Free are guilty of whatever you say.

Like I said, its mostly because of their prior practices.  They wouldn't allow resellers to install other OS's and still sell windows PCs.  They wouldn't allow resellers to install Netscape or FF on any PCs they sold or they weren't allowed to sell windows PCs.  I asked a guy if he could install Red Hat on a PC that I bought and he told me he couldn't due to M$.

And no, you can't give away a product for the sole purpose of eliminating competitors if you are leverage a monopoly product.

 



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JaggedSac on 18 January 2009

They actually look pretty good.



SamuelRSmith on 18 January 2009

Anyone else notice how the McVities logo is starting to look so much like the McCain's one.



Pristine20 on 18 January 2009
Feylic said:
Lol, so if MS stops bundling IE, how will anyone go online to download firefox or anything else?!!?

 

I wonder...



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selnor on 18 January 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
selnor said:
SamuelRSmith said:
selnor said:
SamuelRSmith said:
selnor said:
SamuelRSmith said:
kowenicki said:
I urge you non-europeans to take the test I posted above and the see why the Brits (and particularly the English) are roundly pissed off with then European gravy train.

 

 Not all British/English people are anti-EU; just the ignorant ones.

 

 Um, all I can say is sod off. I'm English and entirely against the EU. I absolutely want no part of the EU. There are masses of reasons, but to give you an idea the EU police could take control of the country and there would be nothing the English could. Except we bloody would, If I had to defend my home as an English person for my English way of life I would do it to the death. 90% of English people feel that way.

Ignorance is not looking into the treaty and thinking everything is rosey with it. Look again. I very much want UK to stay clear of EU.

 

 90% of English people feel this way? Then why did 2.2% of the electorate vote for UKIP in the last election? They didn't win a single seat. (The BNP won even fewer votes... only 0.7% of the electorate).

It seems very apparant, to me, that the majority of Brits wish to remain in the EU. And so what if they do, or don't? Most don't have a clue what EU membership entails.

LOL BNP is long known as being highly racist in the past. BNP are a massively failiure political party. I would never vote for them. Tell me why then when Mr faggot Gordon Brown said he would not let the public vote on whether they sign the treaty did the public go absolutely insane. Every single paper we have here was against and for good reason. I'll list afew

EU will be able to sign new treaties with other countries on UK behalf without consulting.

EU courts can pass new laws for UK without consulting.

If needs arise EU police can come in and run the bloody country.

I'm sorry but you obviously live in a tiny pocket somewhere in the UK that missed the national uproar over Gordon Brown and the EU treaty.

Mr Cameron has promised us a vote and on this alone I will voter for him. EU talk about M$ monopoly. When EU is a monopoly on the most horrible scale. It's basically conforming Europe to one way eventually, it's World War conformity on the sly. The same thing just without the war.

 

 

 Because the public would be outraged by it, but that doesn't mean that the entire country is anti-EU, it's just that they viewed this as a direct attack on the sovereignty of Parliament, which it was. I didn't want the proposal to go through, does that make me anti-EU? No.

I certainly am against European Union. Europe as individual countries I love our brothers to bits. It's the Union itself that I detest with every last bone. EU is essentially a wolf in sheeps clothing. They are Hitler in a white robe. It's power hunger on the sly like I said. You mark my words.

 

 

An opinion isn't a general consensus. Whatever your personal views are on the EU don't necessarily reflect those of nation.

 

 I understand everyone has opinions. But some people obviously put there head in the sand to. I ask you this. If EU is not power hungry then why did they even bother to put the afformentioned things in the treaty proposal?

"EU will be able to sign new treaties with other countries on UK behalf without consulting.

EU courts can pass new laws for UK without consulting.

If needs arise EU police can come in and run the bloody country."

Even if they get taken out ( amongst other horrific proposals) they obviously wanted for this complete control. They will keep attempting to gain control of each piece no matter how long it takes.



NJ5 on 18 January 2009
Pristine20 said:
Feylic said:
Lol, so if MS stops bundling IE, how will anyone go online to download firefox or anything else?!!?

 

I wonder...

FTP / CD distributions / Getting it from a friend or another PC / Pre-installed by the PC manufacturer.

 



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