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Finally got through the game and I'm so glad to see a game with such an epic final boss again. I also like how the game managed to introduce some moral elements into the story, definetly not BioShock but still something. That said, did anyone else notice the resemblence between the necromorph at the end and Nicole? Thought I saw he features but it was really for just an instant so I could be mistaken.

I'm also sure we can all agree there wil be a Dead Space by this point in time given the game's success, even though the ending was completely satisfactory and can stand just fine on its own two legs (and what epic legs they are). If I had to guess it could deal with Isaac's father. At the log you get after completion it does say that all of his background info is deleted after he left his family so I'm thinking we could see a prequel, the devs did mention something about it too. Or maybe it will go even farther back and they will show us the origin of the Black Marker.

One last thing, did anyone else feel like Unitology was a parody of Scientology, especially after reading that Unitology explanation (which I got after beating the game), with ranks depending on money and power?



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Hehe, well, I hope you don't mind that I'm just going to copy & paste a link to my Dead Space appreciation thread (lol, kind of)? All my thoughts are in there: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=46653

I do say it stands up to BioShock in story telling. The way you learn from videos and transmissions about the background info and ''religious'' aspect of the whole thing just reminds me of it.

And to answer both of your questions: Yes, yes! xD



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Yeah I saw that thread too, but I thought we needed one where we could share "notes" on without being careful on revealing spoilers for others. I can't say it can match BioShock's only because BioShock had a a lot more facets to its story than DS's, however what DS did have was really good. What was interesting is that the story did not pick up at all until around chapter 9 or 10, the one where you pick up the USM Valor's orders and they clearly state that they should be prepared for alien trouble, implying everything was already known. That's where I decidd to screw the rest of my classes for the day and finish the game.

One thing I don't get, is wtf happened to the Valor? They were highly trained, prepared for the situation, and well armed military trained personnel, yet they got dominated by 1 necromorph. Meanwhile good ol' Isaac is nothing but an engineer with no real weapons to speak of yet he takes on an entire ship of them.



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Well, I believe that ''bitch'' (can't remember her name) did say they were good pawns for the government in getting the Monolith (not sure if it's called the same thing in english), and Isaac just helped her get a better hand on the situation at the end with the shuttle and killing Kyne and all that.

I'm not sure but I believe the government itself knew about the mining companies' doing anyways... Isaac might be the key to know the whole truth in the next game, if he didn't die at the end that is (that scared the shit out of me by the way)!

By the way, it reminds me of that old sci-fi movie called ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' where they find an alien artifact on a certain planet (or was it the Moon?)! xD



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SHMUPGurus said:
Well, I believe that ''bitch'' (can't remember her name) did say they were good pawns for the government in getting the Monolith, and Isaac just helped her get a better hand on the situation at the end with the shuttle and killing Kyne and all that.

I'm not sure but I believe the government itself knew about the mining companies' doing anyways... Isaac might be the key to know the whole truth in the next game, if he didn't die at the end that is (that scared the shit out of me by the way)!

 

No kidding, what a dirty German Car Commercial/Exorcist Girl Illusions to pull on us, but it does leave me with the question how the necromorph got there. He wouldn't have been alive if she was around when he was going down the the surface, and why exactly her anyways? At the same time look at this:

Chapter 01: New Arrivals
Chapter 02: Intensive Care
Chapter 03: Course Correction
Chapter 04: Obliteration Imminent
Chapter 05: Lethal Devotion
Chapter 06: Environmental Hazard
Chapter 07: Into the Void
Chapter 08: Search and Rescue
Chapter 09: Dead on Arrival
Chapter 10: End of Days
Chapter 11: Alternate Solutions
Chapter 12: Dead Space

So if she was dead all along, which seems to be the accepted cannon (she'd be a really crappy docotr if she didn't know what can kill her) then maybe the illusion's weren't really illusions but actually her as a necromorph but his mind would make her out as a normal being? She does get attacked at that one point and you have to defend her. But that wouldn't make sense because why would the Hive Mind want the marker back if that is what was sealing it? That last scene really fucks up the continuation imo. UNLESS Isaac was hallucinating that part as well, meaning he will be alive and well in the next games, then again wtf can 1 necromorph do to him now? I'm sure he knows them inside and out by the end of the game.... I'm guessing Isaac's fate will depend on whether there is a sequel or not, if there is that means he is alive, if there isn't that means he dies (and this makes for one of the best stories period).

 

Yeah it was the moon, but then you can tie any alien artifact in any story to that movie. I really want to know what the Black Marker was, who created it, and if it had the exact same effects as the red one.



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Haha, I also like f'd up endings like that! xD

But wait, didn't activating the marker do something to the necromorphs anyway? I know that when it activated near the end, the other morphs coming at me just dropped dead on the bridge there... So I'm guessing it did hurt the Hive Mind a bit (thus how Isaac was able to beat her so easily, or maybe she just sucks either way!). So, if the Hive Mind is really the toughest one out there and was barely able to fight, and if it was really Nicole on that other bench back in the shuttle, then maybe the blast radius when the marker got activated wasn't strong enough (meaning it didn't kill everything and Nicole would even be more powerful than the Hive Mind)?

EA, work on a sequel damnit! D:
Wait, isn't there a Dead Space comic/anime somewhere? I believe I've heard it exists.

*P.S.: That's awesome what you found with the chapter titles! I didn't even notice it and I even saved a new file every new chapter!



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Wow... you actually had necros around you when it went in place? I didn't notice anaything since I just stayed in a corner where I could see both vents with my force and line guns chopping anything that comes out. Then I just pulse rifled the tentacles and  ejoyed the very epic sound track on my way to putting the Marker back. Maybe she wasn't a necromorph at the end but just crazy? I didn't see too many indications that she was a necromorph (claws) and YouTube videos SUCK and only show that its her hair and that she is huddling in the shuttle. I find myself really atatched to Isaac (kind of like Gordon Freeman in HL and the dude in BioShock, VERY effecive narration) and I kinda want him to live....

I watched both the comics and the anime before this (it may have taken away from the experience though since all of them talk about illusions and demetia and you don't know that in the game) and they are not related at all to the DS storyline. Comic is like 2 weeks before Isaac arrives and anime ends at the same time that Isaac arrive (you see the ship hailing the Ishimura, it's also a very vioent anime).

I can't take credit for the chapter titles, someone else did. The whole time I was sitting there thinking of how cool the names tied up, and if you read the last log (which i got after beating the game) it shows why they call it dead space.

On another note, how epic was the Hive Mind? That cutscene leading to it made for a really great final boss fight, the likes of which I have not had in a LONG time. More games need epic final bosses and less epic final battles.



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I totally agree about the final boss. I had the EXACT same thoughts as you. The setting was epic, no music (if I recall correctly), just plain tentacle dodging! At one point, I got hit by one and I thought I was dead for sure and that she would eat me because there was just an animation going on, but then I figured out that I had to aim and shoot like with the other big tentacles on the Ishimura (which were way easier than I expected).

When the climax gets as epic as that, you got to expect something big, but that was a whole other league compared to the likes of Resident Evil 4 or Silent Hill! It just blew my mind when I saw how big that shit was compared to Isaac! xD



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So I just did the last parts again (it's ezmode with a fully upgraded pulse rifle, much easier than no upgrades, only takes 10 shots per yellow) and WOW. I didn't realize just how much the game gains in those last 15 minutes. From the moment you put the marker in its place until you read the Backstory Logs, basically the whole game is made.

There was music! It was the impeding doom music. When she first pops up you can even see the asteroid coming down on top of you both. Right after she mops up the floor, literally, with that bitch. I remember going up to RE4's final boss expecting something HUGE! Instead I got nothing, 10 foot tall 4 legged thing with spikes... very disappointing. Given the previous bosses in DS I didn't expect too much, boy was I surprised. I also let myself be killed by that actoin sequence, man that is one legendary death, you should go just to watch it. Makes me miss the fact I died so few times through action sequences (the lurker one is awesome, gets all 3 tentacles under your chin and up to your head).

Also Nicole definetly had claws at the end.... but some people don't seem to agree. We NEED some story stuff on this and the comics/anime just aren't enough at all. You know a story is so good when there are so many topics about it on the internet.

 

P.S. My jaw still dropped during all the cut-scenes of the final boss, just so amazing.



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This game needs melee weapons, and good ones. In the anime they had light chainsaws that cut through anything, you know, for when the Force gun fails.



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