I hear wood is better for the butt!

But yeah the PS3 vs Xbox 360 value - I agree that if you start stacking things like Blu Ray/Wireless/Online play into the want or need column you're going to be better off with a PS3.

However if the wireless module costs say $15-20 to add and say 10% of people will actually use it then you could say that its better to not include it for the 9/10 people who don't need it rather than jacking the price up to satisfy the one person who does. $150 cost overall vs $100 for just one person and if that sounds bad for you, theres are two competing consoles with wireless to choose from.

It will be fourth or fifth behind DS, Wii, PSP, X360

I give them 2nd maybe.......I say maybe 2nd. They will be hard pressed just to beat the 360 this holiday. But not 1st, not even close. Wii is a beast!

I just finished going into the future on my time machine and guess what...the PS3 did not outsell the Wii.

Awesome article posted by PS3 Addiction!!! Obviously there is no bias!

Some great quotes from the article:

Not only is the article writer (whose pen name is steriotyp ... no, I'm not kidding) a genius at writing without favoritism, he is also a great speller and forms sentences perfectly. This is why I believe his conclusion that the PS3 will take the #1 Holiday spot is the cold, hard truth!

lol at that sites wii and xbox360 sections.

as most reasonable people have said, ps3 will have to fight with 360 for second place, it wont be easy

If it was $299 it'd definitely be the #1 HD console. As it is I think it's gonna end up in 3rd.

Believe.

Without left for dead, my interest in the PS3 has waned. Even though its not a 360 Exclusive the fact that its not even coming out on the PS3, is not in its favor, at least for me. Regardless of each systems exclusives 3rd party games like Fallout 3 look way better that the exclusives, so why would pay more for a PS3. Dvd is good enough for me and the deal Microsoft has with Netflix seals it.

Well this is an interesting story. If these predictions come true I will be very, very pleased. However, I know that it is going to take a mirical to slam the door on the Wiis momentum. The PS3 does have a lot going for it this holiday, and it has a very good chance of selling in a decent second to the Wii. I am thinking 45, 35, 20 for the Wii, PS3, and 360 is not a bad guess.

It is really to early to tell what will happen around mid October, but that is when things for this holiday will begin to shape up. I believe that in America the PS3 will begin to match back up to 360 sales around this time. Then as we move into November, we will see 360 move ahead yet again on the launch of Gears of War 2. The week following GeoW2 PS3 will be ahead of 360, and from there through the rest of the year PS3 will pull further and further ahead. In Europe the 360 really has no chance. Sales for PS3 will start to really sepperate from it starting the last week of Sept/ first week october thanks to football games. Following that the PS3 games for this winter will crush the 360, this is the same as why PS3 can't beat Wii. PS3 just has way to much momentum in Europe to allow the 360 any breathing room.

Now the most interesting place for the HD consoles this winter will be Japan. Microsoft at the moment seems to have the Japanese in confusion. They love Sony and really want to support them yet Sony has failed to give them the games they want. Out of pride they have avoided the Xbox brand for the last 7 years, however, with recent money hatting moves buy Microsoft, the Xbox brand is now getting many of the games they expect on the PS brand. Unless Sony has a card up there sleeve for TGS, I see it being a very bloody battle this winter in the land of the rising sun.