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Hmm... have I made any predictons that proved false? I still think there's a chance that the PS3 never hits 30 million, but that's far from proven one way or the other.

The guy who's saying the PS3 will beat Xbox sales this year, and Wii halfway through 2008 should really start practicing the fine skill of bird consumption.



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Dolla Dolla said:

I would like to thank FishyJoe for posting the information first and making this crow session possible

Gballzack said:

Look at it this way. Sony is in the hole deep. Now tell me, are you going to lower the sales cost and lose even more money on each PS3 sold further compounding your losses over the holiday season or are you going to keep it 600 and gradually lower production costs allowing for a better return and let the Holiday season sell a boat load of the more expensive units before considering a price cut? Besides I don't think a Single Sony fan should want a PS3 price cut, if they have so much faith in the games, they should relish the fact that Sony will be making their money back sooner by keeping the price where it is.

Also, think of the psychological fallout, a price cut sounds good to you who already owns a Ps3 and wants more people to own one, but at this point it wouldn't sound too good to a perspective buyer. Crazy you say? Hear me out. Imagine a console dropping in price, $100 or $200 dollars in its first year, not even the Dreamcast went down the shitter that fast. You drop the price on the PS3 now and yeah, you'll have a considerable sales spike, but no where near what it could have been because you've just scared off the majority of potential buyers by taking the action of a company trying to liquidate stock before abandoning a product. Who wants to buy a console that's about to die? And even though the PS3 isn't dying, try telling that to the casual consumers whom don't keep up on Sony news and whom you've just made shit themselves.


http://www.kotv.com/news/national/story/?id=131051
"Starting Monday, the current 60 gigabyte model will cost $499 _ a $100 price drop."

Gballzack, please enjoy:


Wait... I don't see why GBallzack has to eat crow?  From what you just quoted, she was actually quite insightful in what she said.  In fact, what she said was very true.  She hasn't been proven wrong at all.

 

She never siad that the PS3 wouldn't recieve a pricedrop, she merely listed the repercussions the pricedrop would cause.  Even if she did elsewhere in the thread say that a Sony pricedrop would not occur, I would be far more impressed if the repercussions she stated did occur when the pricedrop did happen.  Thusfar, she is correct.  Now we wait...



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Parokki said:
Hmm... have I made any predictons that proved false? I still think there's a chance that the PS3 never hits 30 million, but that's far from proven one way or the other.

If you're right about that one, there's still a chance I'll be right about the Wii Balance Board outselling the PS3.  



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RolStoppable said:

3 weeks ago Legend11 posted an article from Dave Halverson of the Play Magazine in which the editor in chief states that Nintendo's new strategy is to go for your mom and abandon the core gamer market. I commented on this issue that this article is just the opinion of the editor and that he will be proved wrong. Here's the link to said thread:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=0&id=3480

What then happened was that several members of this forum ganged up against me, because in no way could I, a dedicated Nintendo gamer, know more about Nintendo's strategy then a journalist that was invited to Nintendo's media summit. My statements were:

"Nintendo won't abandon the core gamer market."

At their E3 press conference Nintendo stated the core gamer market is still an essential part of their userbase and that they will continue to make core games themselves and support 3rd parties to bring core games to Wii and add online functionality (EA is the prime example here), which was a concern for many core gamers as well.

"Mario Kart Wii is coming."

Nintendo announced Mario Kart for Wii on E3, the game is going to be released worldwide in Q1 2008 with online multiplayer.

"I know more about Nintendo and their strategy than the editor in chief who wrote the article for the Play Magazine."

Apparently I do.

"Just because analysts and journalists are paid to pay attention to the videogame market and its trends, doesn't mean that they can't be wrong from time to time."

That should be a no brainer, really.

So who is going to eat crow? Here is the list of people that were proved wrong on one or several points:

  • Dave Halverson, editor in chief of the Play Magazine
  • Legend11
  • ckmlb
  • Diomedes1976
  • konnichiwa
  • gebx
  • Celb
Dolla Dolla, please serve them some crow.
Did you even watch Nintendo's E3 presentation?  That was some of the most shameless promotion to casual gamers that I have seen from Nintendo to this very day.  The strategy seems to be working for them, so w/e, but please do not act like they are as committed to the dedicated gamers out there as they used to be.

 



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Haha. You know, in parts of the UK crow is slang for snot!

This thread is actually a lot less disgusting than I thought it might be.



Avalach21 said:

Wait... I don't see why GBallzack has to eat crow? From what you just quoted, she was actually quite insightful in what she said. In fact, what she said was very true. She hasn't been proven wrong at all.

 

She never siad that the PS3 wouldn't recieve a pricedrop, she merely listed the repercussions the pricedrop would cause. Even if she did elsewhere in the thread say that a Sony pricedrop would not occur, I would be far more impressed if the repercussions she stated did occur when the pricedrop did happen. Thusfar, she is correct. Now we wait...


Gballzack has vehemently stated time and time again that Sony would not cut the PS3 price this year because of all those reasons. And, after the price cut, it seems the stock has been moving pretty briskly, at least from the Amazon watch. If you want, I can dig up the original thread where she stated time and time again it wouldn't get a price cut.

If you've been around, you know she deserves this crow lol 



Dolla Dolla said:

If you've been around, you know she deserves this crow lol


 Hell yes !



Dolla Dolla said:
Avalach21 said:

Wait... I don't see why GBallzack has to eat crow? From what you just quoted, she was actually quite insightful in what she said. In fact, what she said was very true. She hasn't been proven wrong at all.

 

She never siad that the PS3 wouldn't recieve a pricedrop, she merely listed the repercussions the pricedrop would cause. Even if she did elsewhere in the thread say that a Sony pricedrop would not occur, I would be far more impressed if the repercussions she stated did occur when the pricedrop did happen. Thusfar, she is correct. Now we wait...


Gballzack has vehemently stated time and time again that Sony would not cut the PS3 price this year because of all those reasons. And, after the price cut, it seems the stock has been moving pretty briskly, at least from the Amazon watch. If you want, I can dig up the original thread where she stated time and time again it wouldn't get a price cut.

If you've been around, you know she deserves this crow lol 


She predicted that the stock would move briskly for a time, and then all of the repercussions would fall into action.  Let's wait and see...



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Given the "downward" revision of the Xbox 360 numbers, MS refusal to match the price drop and assuming Nintendo moves enough consoles in July, how close does John Lucas have to be to "not eat crow". Hang in there, John. It may be closer than everyone thinks.



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