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Forums - Sony Discussion - im confused MGS4 and GTA4 both got 10 from like everyone

whatever, probably none of MGS4 and GTAIV deserves more than 8. Too many biased and hyped reviews, and all that exclusive reviews out there.



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disolitude said:
Haha...

Anyone giving MGS 10 is a moron. Anyone giving GTA4 a 10 is...a moron as well just not as big of a moron. Both games have issues.

MGS4 deserves a solid 9 for being the best interactive movie you've ever watched. GTA4 I'd give 9.5 for actually having decent gameplay depth and being the best sandbox game ever made.

Can't say that is true; GTA SA had far more sandbox type features from more vechs to customizable characters; GTA IV had as much customization as VC; less vechs than SA and prob the same as VC and better graphics. And what gameplay depth? Other than the cover system its the same as all the others(Not that the cover system helped; ducking and getting insta headshots was far superior), and for the love of god don't say the story had depth it was the same as all the others(revenge) without the money incentive.

I do agree neither game deserves a 10 but GTA IV is not better than MGS4 at all. It was a graphics upgrade and almost nothing more when you factor in what features were added and which got cut out.



Don't worry. The hype will settle down.

I remember a month back when everyone on these forums were saying, "GTA4 BEST GAME EVAR 12/10!!!" Now, the official line seems to be, "GTA4 didn't deserve all of those perfect scores, since it has its share of significant flaws."

Now, everyone is saying, "MGS4 BEST GAME EVAR FIFTY BAJILLION/10!!!!!"

What do you think is going to happen a month from now? :)



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CrazzyMan said:
MGS4 perfect reviews from!

10/10 from kombo
10/10 from gamespot
10/10 from IGN
10/10 from Playstation Official Magazine UK
10/10 from GamePro
10/10 from Playstation: The Official Magazine (US)
10/10 from Game Informer
10/10 from Gameplayer
10/10 from Console Monster
10/10 from PSX Extreme
10/10 from AceGamez
10/10 from Famitsu
10/10 from MeriStation (Spain)
10/10 from PlayStation Beyond
10/10 from Empire Online
10/10 from Fox News
10/10 from Rise of Games
10/10 from pocket-lint
10/10 from gamespot(UK)
10/10 from JeuxVideo.FR
10/10 from bingegamer(BG)
10/10 from PSU
10/10 from Dubious
10/10 from 411
10/10 from X-Play
10/10 from PlayStationLifeStyle.net
10/10 from TheSixthAxis
10/10 from Thunderbolt Games
10/10 from Sci Fi Weekly
10/10 from Giant Bomb
10/10 from Maxim Online
10/10 from Sl!ceGaming
10/10 from ReelGamers.com
10/10 from 360-Entertainment
10/10 from Eurogamer Portugal
10/10 from Loot Ninja Review
10/10 from PST
10/10 from ME Gamers
10/10 from JV.org
10/10 from Player TV UK
10/10 from PTOM (USA)
10/10 from PSM Italy

p.s. it`s MUCH harder to get PERFECT 10, then any other score.

holy crap.. how long did it take you to compile all of those, in any case, gta 4 has more

 



I think GTA recieving so many perfect reviews despite many flaws has really hurt MGS4's reputation as it's recieving tens as well, so people assume the same issues must be present.

I've played both alot, and I'll say this: I've sold GTAIV, while the only thing keeping me from playing through MGS4 again is the fact I've exams this week.
That's my own experience, no need for scores; developers fail to realise it's the opinion of the consumer that matters the most. The consumer fails to realise that reviews are SUBJECTIVE!



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disolitude said:
leo-j said:
disolitude said:
Haha...

Anyone giving MGS 10 is a moron. Anyone giving GTA4 a 10 is...a moron as well just not as big of a moron. Both games have issues.

MGS4 deserves a solid 9 for being the best interactive movie you've ever watched. GTA4 I'd give 9.5 for actually having decent gameplay depth and being the best sandbox game ever made.

 

 Your opinion, completely opposite from mine though.

 

Oh come on, I'm almost at the end and I've had over 50% of my play time be cutscenes...Story is great, and gameplay is good too but there is not enough of gameplay. This is a videogame afterall isn't it... Roger Ebert should review this game as much as IGN.

If you took the story and mission creativity from MGS4 and added some stealth elements from splinter cell and gunplay of Gears of War...youd have a game thats rated 10.

You dont have to watch cutscenes, and you can have over 20 hours of gameplay its your choice to explore the environments, there are many hidden gems in the game.

 



 

mM

MGS 4 IS DA BEST GAME OF DA GENERATION. YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING?



Rock_on_2008 said:
MGS 4 IS DA BEST GAME OF DA GENERATION. YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING?

 

 If you put it this way...I agree.



CrazzyMan said:
MGS4 perfect reviews from!
     
10/10 from Gameplayer  
10/10 from Famitsu
10/10 from MeriStation (Spain)
10/10 from PlayStation Beyond
10/10 from Empire Online
10/10 from Fox News
10/10 from Rise of Games
10/10 from pocket-lint
10/10 from gamespot(UK)
10/10 from JeuxVideo.FR
10/10 from bingegamer(BG)
10/10 from PSU
10/10 from Dubious
10/10 from 411 
10/10 from PlayStationLifeStyle.net
10/10 from TheSixthAxis
10/10 from Thunderbolt Games
10/10 from Sci Fi Weekly 
10/10 from Maxim Online
10/10 from Sl!ceGaming
10/10 from ReelGamers.com
10/10 from 360-Entertainment
10/10 from Eurogamer Portugal
10/10 from Loot Ninja Review
10/10 from PST
10/10 from ME Gamers
10/10 from JV.org
10/10 from Player TV UK
10/10 from PTOM (USA)
10/10 from PSM Italy

p.s. it`s MUCH harder to get PERFECT 10, then any other score.

 

 I'm gonna have to check on these.

but last time I checked on

gamerankings doesnt have

OPM Italy's 100%
Levels 100%
Game Informer's 100%
Player Tv's 100%
IGN UK 99%
Cheifs 97%
OPM Belgiums 96%
Hobby Consolas 96%
Joypads 95%
Gamers Report's 95%
PlayFrances 95%
Hardgames 90%
Power Unlimited's 90%

those gamerankings didn't have them listend.

Gamerankings also has the add an article disabled. so....



PooperScooper said:
CrazzyMan said:
MGS4 perfect reviews from!

10/10 from kombo
10/10 from gamespot
10/10 from IGN
10/10 from Playstation Official Magazine UK
10/10 from GamePro
10/10 from Playstation: The Official Magazine (US)
10/10 from Game Informer
10/10 from Gameplayer
10/10 from Console Monster
10/10 from PSX Extreme
10/10 from AceGamez
10/10 from Famitsu
10/10 from MeriStation (Spain)
10/10 from PlayStation Beyond
10/10 from Empire Online
10/10 from Fox News
10/10 from Rise of Games
10/10 from pocket-lint
10/10 from gamespot(UK)
10/10 from JeuxVideo.FR
10/10 from bingegamer(BG)
10/10 from PSU
10/10 from Dubious
10/10 from 411
10/10 from X-Play
10/10 from PlayStationLifeStyle.net
10/10 from TheSixthAxis
10/10 from Thunderbolt Games
10/10 from Sci Fi Weekly
10/10 from Giant Bomb
10/10 from Maxim Online
10/10 from Sl!ceGaming
10/10 from ReelGamers.com
10/10 from 360-Entertainment
10/10 from Eurogamer Portugal
10/10 from Loot Ninja Review
10/10 from PST
10/10 from ME Gamers
10/10 from JV.org
10/10 from Player TV UK
10/10 from PTOM (USA)
10/10 from PSM Italy

p.s. it`s MUCH harder to get PERFECT 10, then any other score.

 

I'm gonna have to check on these.

but last time I checked on

gamerankings doesnt have OPM Italy's 100%, OPM Belgiums 96%, Power Unlimited's 90%, Cheifs 97%, Levels 100%, Joypads 95%, Jeuxvideo Magazines 100%, Hobby Consolas 96%, PlayFrances 95%, IGN UK 99%, Meristations 100%, Hardgames 90%, Famitsu's 100%, Fox News' (lol) 100%, Rise of Games' 100%, Gamers Report's 95%, Game Informer's 100% and 98%, Player Tv's 100%, or gameplayers 100%

those gamerankings didn't have them listend.

Gamerankings also has the add an article disabled. so....


 Gamerankings does not feature any European reviews besides UK.