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Forums - Politics - "Operation Epstein Fury" - US and Israel Unprovoked invasion of Iran

ST.Tachyon said:
Davy said:

U.S. don't let rich countries and allys like Germany and Japan to have nukes and you expect they well let Iran in Middle East Area that has huge world oil and natural gas reserves.
This is naive and hilarious.

IF i am not wrong Germany is not capable to make one, and they are most likely afraid that Japan will nuke them for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Why anyone need Nuke?

Its to rule through fear.

In normal world no one would have Nukes, i mean why do you need weapon of mass destruction?

These weapons only exist to commit genocides

They have the knowledge to create nukes but they know U.S. won't let them for obvious reasons.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Darc Requiem said:

There is one terrorist regime in the Middle East with illegal nukes and it's not Iran. It's boggles the mind how International Law doesn't apply to Israel. How people can continually swallow the narrative when there has been lie after lie from them and their flunkies in the US is beyond me. As the video of Netanyahu I posted before shows, Iran has been "on the cusp" of nuclear weapons well over 30 years according them. If they were as close to nuclear weapons as Netanyahu and all of the US Warhawks backing him would have people believe they'd have them by now. Think, really think about the situation. These same people pushing this war claimed that Iran's Nuclear Weapons program was obliterated last June. They cart out this lie everytime they attack Iran and they gave gotten away with because people are too ignorant to pay attention. Although, thankfully, this has begun to change.

Side note: Do you also believe that Israel is a democracy too?

Israel is just as much of a backwards, embarassment of a country as any other in the Middle East. It's a religion-based country, founded on the idea that even though most of them left thousands of years ago, Jews are the only ones entitled to live in the Israeli/Palestinian region. And don't get me wrong. Palestine beleives the same thing about themselves. They just happen to be on the losing side of a conflict where both sides wish for Genocide. 

Israel's actions have resulted in a lot of issues. People forget that the Palestinians welcomed the survivors of the Holocaust with open arms. Literally opening their homes to them. The response of the Zionist movement was the reward that generosity with forced displacement and genocide. The "right to return" is a big joke by in large because the people returning aren't descended from those that were promised the land. The land was promise to the Hebrews. There is a reason they dont allow DNA testing. They won't people getting wise to the fact that most of the Jewish people settled in Israel are not Hebrews but converts descended from Eastern Europe. Poland and Ukraine in particular. They change their names to sound more Hebriac. Here are a couple of the numerous examples. Netanyahu's father changed their family name from Mileikowsky to Netanyahu. The first Prime Minister of Israel, David Grün aka David Ben-Gurion, started an in encouraged this practice. To top it off a lot of their leadership, like Netanyahu, are secular. They use the Jewish faith as a convenience to further their goals.

TLDR; Even by religious standards, they don't have a right to the land. The land was promised to the Hebrews. Most of the people that moved to Israel are descended from Eastern European converts. They've gone through great efforts to hide that fact. i.e. Hebriac name changes and banning of DNA testing. I.E. the Mileikowsky family changing their surname to Netanyahu. The crazy thing is that every time the IDF kills a Palestinian, they kill someone more genetically Hebrew than they are.



Cerebralbore101 said:

Israel is just as much of a backwards, embarassment of a country as any other in the Middle East. It's a religion-based country, founded on the idea that even though most of them left thousands of years ago, Jews are the only ones entitled to live in the Israeli/Palestinian region. And don't get me wrong. Palestine beleives the same thing about themselves. They just happen to be on the losing side of a conflict where both sides wish for Genocide. 

That's a gross oversimplification conveniently sidestepping recent history.

Mass unnatural migration of Eastern European Jews to Palestine started in the early 1900's.

Jewish migration to Palestine in the early 1900s, driven by rising European antisemitism and Zionism, occurred in major waves (Aliyot), significantly altering the region's demographics. Approximately 40,000 Jews arrived during the Second Aliyah (1904–1914), while subsequent waves, especially in the 1920s-30s, saw tens of thousands more arrive.

See how crazy the US is going against immigration reaching about 15% of the population. (Of course those numbers should be taken with a large dose of salt as 97% of the population of the USA are immigrants, less than 3% indigenous left)

Palestine changed from 2% to 5% Jewish in 1880 to 12 to 13% by 1915 then grew to 31-32% by 1940 under British mandate, mainly Askenazi Jews from Europe. And these zionist Jews did not integrate, they created their own labor parties excluding the indigenous population, see Labor Zionism. 

So resistance and uprisings were to be expected, Arab revolt 1936-1939.

Then WW2 happened, Peel partition plan, UN partition plan, and the creation of Israel displacing 700-750K Palestinians and the destruction of over 500 villages and towns, taking 77-78% of the land, killing 13,000 to 16,000 Palestinians in the process.


One side wishes for freedom and the right of return to their land. The other sides wishes for Greater Israel and a land without people.