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2028 first half 5 23.81%
 
2028 second half 4 19.05%
 
2029 first half 2 9.52%
 
2029 second half 4 19.05%
 
2030 first half 1 4.76%
 
2030 second half 1 4.76%
 
2031 first half 0 0%
 
2031 second half 0 0%
 
2032 and beyond 3 14.29%
 
Never 1 4.76%
 
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BraLoD said:
Otter said:

Firstly on the sex stuff. What you're talking about is story telling. The scenes don't need to pan out 1:1 to convey him being a sexual hedonist. They can keep it explicit without necessary showing it in the same way.

As for the violence, I think them taming it down (My reference is GOW3) is very likely simply as a reflection of more modern graphical presentation. I still expect it to be gruesome, but more an 8 on the scale if the original was a 10.

None of this would equate to a disservice imo. You don't need to see The Boys level of gore in order to understand Kratos is violent. I think people should just chill a bit in the anticipation of things being toned down and just wait to see whether what is delivered actually works and does service to the characters and story.

Kratos did what he did, he has already done it, it's not about he needs to be more brutal, or he needs to have sex all the time, it's about depicting what he did when he did, for the exact reasons he had.

About the sex, it being somewhat differently presented? Sure. It being removed? No.

About the violence, as you used numbers, if it was a 10, than it should keep being a 10. Why would Kratos need to be less violent? The guy was the embodiment of violent madness.

Toning it down is indeed a disservice.

Why are people so sensible? The game will be rated in line with what it presents, so the public knows it.

Again, those things already happened, people know exactly what to expect, and games or any kind of media, having explict content is completely fine. Games like Mortal Kombat or series like Game of Thrones, they are what they are.

God of War is what it is.

The sex mini games, in the original, gives red orbs for leveling purposes.  I just didn't like it, found it unnecessary.  It can be made optional, e.g. no experience points or rewritten. 

As for GoT, I enjoyed the books and the show, but yes, there are some scenes that are just not needed in the show.  There is a fine line between telling a story and just being childish.  Just my 2 cents.   



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BraLoD said:

Kratos did what he did, he has already done it, it's not about he needs to be more brutal, or he needs to have sex all the time, it's about depicting what he did when he did, for the exact reasons he had.

About the sex, it being somewhat differently presented? Sure. It being removed? No.

About the violence, as you used numbers, if it was a 10, than it should keep being a 10. Why would Kratos need to be less violent? The guy was the embodiment of violent madness.

Toning it down is indeed a disservice.

Why are people so sensible? The game will be rated in line with what it presents, so the public knows it.

Again, those things already happened, people know exactly what to expect, and games or any kind of media, having explict content is completely fine. Games like Mortal Kombat or series like Game of Thrones, they are what they are.

God of War is what it is.

It's not a documentary, it's a game. Should they keep the walk cycle from the PS2 game because that's how he walked? Should they not amend or alter any aspect of the camera, gameplay, enemy logic, world design etc? 

I'm all in support of people wanting 100% 1:1 reskins (this may be that), but if you actually want the team to have creative input then that means things will change in some ways. If a camera angle changes as and slowly pivots to Kratos as he pummels another characters face into nothing, I won't cry over it or feel like they've made him less violent.

All I will add with is that those OG games sold like 5m each, the recent incarnations have sold 4x that amount. Taking that into account alongside the fact the team is likely 90% new, I'm just open to receive their interpretation without dictating exactly how the violence and sex needs to be represented.



The more I think of it the more I think it will be somewhere between a reskin (Oblivion) and TLOU Remake (QOL improvement)



The first GoW game was one of my favorite PS2 games because of how good the camera and controls were in an age 3D action games were clunky as hell

I'll going to play the first one only to see how my own perception about game design and combat has changed in 20 years. I'm 99% sure I'm going to hate it, but I'll try it nonethless



Otter said:
BraLoD said:

Kratos did what he did, he has already done it, it's not about he needs to be more brutal, or he needs to have sex all the time, it's about depicting what he did when he did, for the exact reasons he had.

About the sex, it being somewhat differently presented? Sure. It being removed? No.

About the violence, as you used numbers, if it was a 10, than it should keep being a 10. Why would Kratos need to be less violent? The guy was the embodiment of violent madness.

Toning it down is indeed a disservice.

Why are people so sensible? The game will be rated in line with what it presents, so the public knows it.

Again, those things already happened, people know exactly what to expect, and games or any kind of media, having explict content is completely fine. Games like Mortal Kombat or series like Game of Thrones, they are what they are.

God of War is what it is.

It's not a documentary, it's a game. Should they keep the walk cycle from the PS2 game because that's how he walked? Should they not amend or alter any aspect of the camera, gameplay, enemy logic, world design etc? 

I'm all in support of people wanting 100% 1:1 reskins (this may be that), but if you actually want the team to have creative input then that means things will change in some ways. If a camera angle changes as and slowly pivots to Kratos as he pummels another characters face into nothing, I won't cry over it or feel like they've made him less violent.

All I will add with is that those OG games sold like 5m each, the recent incarnations have sold 4x that amount. Taking that into account alongside the fact the team is likely 90% new, I'm just open to receive their interpretation without dictating exactly how the violence and sex needs to be represented.

Not sure if it is a good example or not, but RE2 Remake has massive changes..  and it decimates the original in every way.  I am all for remaking the original trilogy, they are fantastic, but I agree, they should be given creativity in updating the games.  



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Otter said:
BraLoD said:

Kratos did what he did, he has already done it, it's not about he needs to be more brutal, or he needs to have sex all the time, it's about depicting what he did when he did, for the exact reasons he had.

About the sex, it being somewhat differently presented? Sure. It being removed? No.

About the violence, as you used numbers, if it was a 10, than it should keep being a 10. Why would Kratos need to be less violent? The guy was the embodiment of violent madness.

Toning it down is indeed a disservice.

Why are people so sensible? The game will be rated in line with what it presents, so the public knows it.

Again, those things already happened, people know exactly what to expect, and games or any kind of media, having explict content is completely fine. Games like Mortal Kombat or series like Game of Thrones, they are what they are.

God of War is what it is.

It's not a documentary, it's a game. Should they keep the walk cycle from the PS2 game because that's how he walked? Should they not amend or alter any aspect of the camera, gameplay, enemy logic, world design etc? 

I'm all in support of people wanting 100% 1:1 reskins (this may be that), but if you actually want the team to have creative input then that means things will change in some ways. If a camera angle changes as and slowly pivots to Kratos as he pummels another characters face into nothing, I won't cry over it or feel like they've made him less violent.

All I will add with is that those OG games sold like 5m each, the recent incarnations have sold 4x that amount. Taking that into account alongside the fact the team is likely 90% new, I'm just open to receive their interpretation without dictating exactly how the violence and sex needs to be represented.

The only Sony game selling over 10M before The Last of Us in 2013 was Gran Turismo.

PS1 and PS2 were piracy heaven, I know it, I was there, nobody I knew had a single PS1 or PS2 original game, but everyone had the systems and played the games.

This is quite absurd to use as a point about content, to be honest.

Crash Bandicoot when coming to modern systems, being a remaster, so pretty much exactly the same games, sold over 20M copies, wanna compare it to the sales on those games on PS1 to point out what should be big changes in content to please the modern audience? Come on...



Farsala said:

Can't say I am hyped for games I already played and enjoyed. But I am still a bit intrigued. I have played a lot of remakes over the years, but that is because I never played them before, so hopefully this brings more people into the glory of the OG trilogy and then they make another God of War in Greek mythology.

Yeah, same here. Played them back in the day and not about to double dip. Unless they make some crazy FF7 Remake level changes and expansions, but I doubt they will. But nice to see some new life breathed into them, anyways.



BraLoD said:
Otter said:

It's not a documentary, it's a game. Should they keep the walk cycle from the PS2 game because that's how he walked? Should they not amend or alter any aspect of the camera, gameplay, enemy logic, world design etc? 

I'm all in support of people wanting 100% 1:1 reskins (this may be that), but if you actually want the team to have creative input then that means things will change in some ways. If a camera angle changes as and slowly pivots to Kratos as he pummels another characters face into nothing, I won't cry over it or feel like they've made him less violent.

All I will add with is that those OG games sold like 5m each, the recent incarnations have sold 4x that amount. Taking that into account alongside the fact the team is likely 90% new, I'm just open to receive their interpretation without dictating exactly how the violence and sex needs to be represented.

The only Sony game selling over 10M before The Last of Us in 2013 was Gran Turismo.

PS1 and PS2 were piracy heaven, I know it, I was there, nobody I knew had a single PS1 or PS2 original game, but everyone had the systems and played the games.

This is quite absurd to use as a point about content, to be honest.

Crash Bandicoot when coming to modern systems, being a remaster, so pretty much exactly the same games, sold over 20M copies, wanna compare it to the sales on those games on PS1 to point out what should be big changes in content to please the modern audience? Come on...

I'll try and remain constructive and simply ask you, do you honestly doubt 2018s GOW sales growth was connected to its change in creative direction?



Otter said:
BraLoD said:

The only Sony game selling over 10M before The Last of Us in 2013 was Gran Turismo.

PS1 and PS2 were piracy heaven, I know it, I was there, nobody I knew had a single PS1 or PS2 original game, but everyone had the systems and played the games.

This is quite absurd to use as a point about content, to be honest.

Crash Bandicoot when coming to modern systems, being a remaster, so pretty much exactly the same games, sold over 20M copies, wanna compare it to the sales on those games on PS1 to point out what should be big changes in content to please the modern audience? Come on...

I'll try and remain constructive and simply ask you, do you honestly doubt 2018s GOW sales growth was connected to its change in creative direction?

No connection at all.

Every single Playstation game was elevated because of The Last of Us, and Sony first party games garnered a lot more attention from everyone after it.

Even games like Ghost of Tsushima sold 10M. Uncharted went from selling 6M to selling 16M.

Sony games became symbols of high quality, and not necessarily any game philosophy change was responsible for it.

Uncharted 2 is widely regarded as the best in the series and 4 still sold 3x what it did.



This theme still gives me shivers.

Hope they actually keep the sex games but in different way.