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Ghost of Tsushima was a...

10/10 5 16.67%
 
9/10 9 30.00%
 
8/10 6 20.00%
 
7/10 2 6.67%
 
6/10 0 0%
 
5/10 1 3.33%
 
Never played it. 7 23.33%
 
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BraLoD said:
JackHandy said:

I don't speak for them, I can only speak for myself, but from my understanding, those people aren't really concerned with the character or who is voicing her. They are concerned with the motive behind it. That there is a small leadership at the studio, sitting around, talking about agendas, ticking off lists in the hopes of currying the favor of a tiny-but-very-loud angry band of people that make up the majority of extremists on social media. Because let's face it. If that's true, if that's what's really going on, it can only mean two things: one, that they are inherently biased against certain races and sexes and two, that they are inherently liars and manipulators... and I think we can all agree that neither of those things are good for the planet earth.

Now, as to weather or not any of the above is true, well... only SuckPunch and a few others know. But yeah. I believe that's what bothers the people complaining about it, not what you're asserting.

You should read his post again.

He is complaying about the actress not being a "real" japanese female or beauty so they should pick another he likes. Also about her being possibly lesbian in the game because she is in real life and that her, the actress, has a voice big enough inside Sucker Punch that is backed by Sony millions of dollars to put her own personal agenda as the game mainline story, as if this is a decision she is even barely involved at.

It's downright pathetic and delusional, to say the least.

If any of that is true, you should be mad as well. We all should be. The difference is people like you and I don't go that far without at least some proof first. They buy in at the slightest hint. So if you want to criticize them, that would be the criticism. That they need some sort of proof.



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JackHandy said:
BraLoD said:

Not that I'm in position to tell what someone should do or not, but you guys need to step away a bit from internet drama and conspiracy and play what you want.

If the actress personal life or appearance is something so important to your enjoyment of a videogame, just let it go and move on to something else.

I don't speak for them, I can only speak for myself, but from my understanding, those people aren't really concerned with the character or who is voicing her. They are concerned with the motive behind it. That there is a small leadership at the studio, sitting around, talking about agendas, ticking off lists in the hopes of currying the favor of a tiny-but-very-loud angry band of people that make up the majority of extremists on social media. Because let's face it. If that's true, if that's what's really going on, it can only mean two things: one, that they are inherently biased against certain races and sexes and two, that they are inherently liars and manipulators... and I think we can all agree that neither of those things are good for the planet earth.

Now, as to weather or not any of the above is true, well... only SuckPunch and a few others know. But yeah. I believe that's what bothers the people complaining about it, not what you're asserting.

Why every time the main character is either non white, LGBT or female this question arrives? Should we all speculate that if a main character is a straight white male is because the devs hate women, gay people and other races? 

As for why the main characters are members of minorities, for me the reason is pretty obvious. They want minorities to see themselves in videogames, which is a additional motivation for them to play said games. Since most of legacy games and famous IPs already feature male white leads, new IPs and new installments will often have more minorities as lead characters

The agenda here is "how convince more people to play my games" instead of "we hate white man"



I can't find a single instance of dialogue or a word of the English dub. No mission examples. I have to interpret through the reviewers. Does anyone know of content where I can hear the English dub, preferably Atsu speaking.



IcaroRibeiro said:
JackHandy said:

I don't speak for them, I can only speak for myself, but from my understanding, those people aren't really concerned with the character or who is voicing her. They are concerned with the motive behind it. That there is a small leadership at the studio, sitting around, talking about agendas, ticking off lists in the hopes of currying the favor of a tiny-but-very-loud angry band of people that make up the majority of extremists on social media. Because let's face it. If that's true, if that's what's really going on, it can only mean two things: one, that they are inherently biased against certain races and sexes and two, that they are inherently liars and manipulators... and I think we can all agree that neither of those things are good for the planet earth.

Now, as to weather or not any of the above is true, well... only SuckPunch and a few others know. But yeah. I believe that's what bothers the people complaining about it, not what you're asserting.

Why every time the main character is either non white, LGBT or female this question arrives? Should we all speculate that if a main character is a straight white male is because the devs hate women, gay people and other races? 

As for why the main characters are members of minorities, for me the reason is pretty obvious. They want minorities to see themselves in videogames, which is a additional motivation for them to play said games. Since most of legacy games and famous IPs already feature male white leads, new IPs and new installments will often have more minorities as lead characters

The agenda here is "how convince more people to play my games" instead of "we hate white man"

Playing Devils advocate. Doesn't matter about race, Aloy got heavily critized too and the biggest draws for people who want beautiful character are Asians (Just after cat girls, I would reckon) like Eve in Stellar Blade. Also, men get the same treatment, noone wants a fat guy wearing a trash bag like in Covord, even straight men want attractive men as to them these characters look "cool". 

Race and Gender don't apply. Horniness and human nature apply. Sex sells, as many gaming studio suits are finding out and we'll see a wave of 90's like sexiness in games in the next few years. 

Last edited by LegitHyperbole - on 26 September 2025

IcaroRibeiro said:
JackHandy said:

I don't speak for them, I can only speak for myself, but from my understanding, those people aren't really concerned with the character or who is voicing her. They are concerned with the motive behind it. That there is a small leadership at the studio, sitting around, talking about agendas, ticking off lists in the hopes of currying the favor of a tiny-but-very-loud angry band of people that make up the majority of extremists on social media. Because let's face it. If that's true, if that's what's really going on, it can only mean two things: one, that they are inherently biased against certain races and sexes and two, that they are inherently liars and manipulators... and I think we can all agree that neither of those things are good for the planet earth.

Now, as to weather or not any of the above is true, well... only SuckPunch and a few others know. But yeah. I believe that's what bothers the people complaining about it, not what you're asserting.

Why every time the main character is either non white, LGBT or female this question arrives? Should we all speculate that if a main character is a straight white male is because the devs hate women, gay people and other races? 

As for why the main characters are members of minorities, for me the reason is pretty obvious. They want minorities to see themselves in videogames, which is a additional motivation for them to play said games. Since most of legacy games and famous IPs already feature male white leads, new IPs and new installments will often have more minorities as lead characters

The agenda here is "how convince more people to play my games" instead of "we hate white man"

The reason why people are so quick to jump to that conclusion is because of the times we've had to go through. You didn't see much of this before the woke era.

As for your assertion that they artificially shoe-in someone based on their identity... that's exactly the problem. Because you can't choose someone based on their sexual orientation, color of skin or political background without simultaneously rejecting someone else because of the same thing. It's inherently impossible.

The only fair way way out of this mess has always been to ensure all people have the same legal rights, and to give the best, most deserving person the position, regardless of their racial or sexual identity. In other words, merit-only. 



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My wallet is going to be the real loser in October. I'm so hyped for this game. It looks gorgeous.



Strange poll results. Many people must be waiting for good Friday.



JackHandy said:

The reason why people are so quick to jump to that conclusion is because of the times we've had to go through. You didn't see much of this before the woke era.

As for your assertion that they artificially shoe-in someone based on their identity... that's exactly the problem. Because you can't choose someone based on their sexual orientation, color of skin or political background without simultaneously rejecting someone else because of the same thing. It's inherently impossible.

The only fair way way out of this mess has always been to ensure all people have the same legal rights, and to give the best, most deserving person the position, regardless of their racial or sexual identity. In other words, merit-only. 

Sometimes the process of choosing a worker is exclusionary by default, like in this case if the MC is a female of course the voice actor needs to be a female since males, with few exceptions, cannot correctly dub female voices. Now, regarding the ethnicity of the MC, I'm not a particular fan of what americans tend to do, which is always casting actors of the same ethnicity of the characters. I can only think they are afraid of this be seen as white washing, in the same way you should not cast a white or black woman to play as an Asian character in a movie or TV show

Regardless, "shoehorn" a main character that belongs to a minority in a GAME is among my least concerns when it comes to gaming development issues. Companies do all kinds choices to maximize games appeal, from gameplay to story choices. Ghost of Tsushima choose to be settled in mediaval Japan, and it worked to attract japanese gamers. Now they want more women to play their games and choose a woman as a main character. No big deal 

I don't see why choosing minorities as MC in games should be particularly concerning or something that needs to be scrutinized so hard. Is anyone being hurted because Sucker Punch want to attract more women with a female MC? 



LegitHyperbole said:

Playing Devils advocate. Doesn't matter about race, Aloy got heavily critized too and the biggest draws for people who want beautiful character are Asians (Just after cat girls, I would reckon) like Eve in Stellar Blade. Also, men get the same treatment, noone wants a fat guy wearing a trash bag like in Covord, even straight men want attractive men as to them these characters look "cool". 

Race and Gender don't apply. Horniness and human nature apply. Sex sells, as many gaming studio suits are finding out and we'll see a wave of 90's like sexiness in games in the next few years. 

I mean, if people are gooners and want gooners baits there are many games with that specific appeal. They have all rights to consume only soft-porn if they want it lol 

What I don't understand is how not having an attractive MC instantly turned to be such a strong political statement. People will play games with pixel art characters that are barely reconazible as human beings, but seems like having a fat guy as payabale character is when we cross the line of wokeness 



IcaroRibeiro said:
JackHandy said:

I don't speak for them, I can only speak for myself, but from my understanding, those people aren't really concerned with the character or who is voicing her. They are concerned with the motive behind it. That there is a small leadership at the studio, sitting around, talking about agendas, ticking off lists in the hopes of currying the favor of a tiny-but-very-loud angry band of people that make up the majority of extremists on social media. Because let's face it. If that's true, if that's what's really going on, it can only mean two things: one, that they are inherently biased against certain races and sexes and two, that they are inherently liars and manipulators... and I think we can all agree that neither of those things are good for the planet earth.

Now, as to weather or not any of the above is true, well... only SuckPunch and a few others know. But yeah. I believe that's what bothers the people complaining about it, not what you're asserting.

Why every time the main character is either non white, LGBT or female this question arrives? Should we all speculate that if a main character is a straight white male is because the devs hate women, gay people and other races? 

As for why the main characters are members of minorities, for me the reason is pretty obvious. They want minorities to see themselves in videogames, which is a additional motivation for them to play said games. Since most of legacy games and famous IPs already feature male white leads, new IPs and new installments will often have more minorities as lead characters

The agenda here is "how convince more people to play my games" instead of "we hate white man"

Nobody is saying anything about Saros moving from a female protagonist from Returnal to a male protagonist now.

It's crystal clear the reason why the "criticism" is happening only when it does, and why it's as baseless as it is.

People are just less afraid to try to pass their asshole worldview as "opinions" now that they feel like it's ok to do so.

The level of the ridiculous baseless takes as "opinions" and "concerns" in this thread is pretty telling.