
| Chrkeller said: Outrage to this ad is exactly why there was a red wave last year. People find this faux outrage silly, non important and laughable. Hardworking folks are more concerned with the economy then ads that can be racist via 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game playing. |
Yeah but like the post right before you points out, not a single democrat in office has come out and called this a racist/nazi ad.
Republicans have done a great job at convincing people that these vocal minority of online leftists represent the Democratic Party when it comes to culture war topics.
We saw this during the election last year when Republicans were able to label Democrats as caring more about trans people than other groups when Republicans talk about trans issues 1000x more than Democrats do.
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zorg1000 said:
Yeah but like the post right before you points out, not a single democrat in office has come out and called this a racist/nazi ad. Republicans have done a great job at convincing people that these vocal minority of online leftists represent the Democratic Party when it comes to culture war topics. We saw this during the election last year when Republicans were able to label Democrats as caring more about trans people than other groups when Republicans talk about trans issues 1000x more than Democrats do. |
Fully agreed. Which is why, personal opinion, the strategy of democrats needs to be re-tooled. How the left party thinks they are viewed and how they are actually viewed... massive gap. On the other side, the strategy for republicans is working. Sure it is BS talking points... but doesn't change the fact that it is working. So I think we are aligned here, at least for the most part.
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Hmm. I never heard or saw the ad. I heard and saw the outrage or the reporting of the outrage or the counter-outrage. Now I know about a clothing brand I didn't know about before. I can't help but see this... as very effective viral advertising. Maybe the campaign lucked out in it catching fire or they constructed it in a way to elicit outrage. But it seems a lot of people on Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, Youtube and here in this thread provided free influencer multiplication to a commercial brand campaign. I would say this is very effective. Capitalism at work.
zorg1000 said:
Yeah but like the post right before you points out, not a single democrat in office has come out and called this a racist/nazi ad. Republicans have done a great job at convincing people that these vocal minority of online leftists represent the Democratic Party when it comes to culture war topics. We saw this during the election last year when Republicans were able to label Democrats as caring more about trans people than other groups when Republicans talk about trans issues 1000x more than Democrats do. |
They’ve mostly just reconfirmed MAGA credulity.
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| xl-klaudkil said: What,they never actually said great genes, just jeans? |
Is the double entendres not obvious? The ad kind spells it out by saying genes are passed down from parents to children.
And this is not exactly a new one. It’s been in jeans ads for decades. There’s literally a brand of jeans called “superior jeans”
right-wingers have a tendency to make-up leftist outrage, and they believe it bumpkins are gullible.
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Jumpin said:
Is the double entendres not obvious? The ad kind spells it out by saying genes are passed down from parents to children. And this is not exactly a new one. It’s been in jeans ads for decades. There’s literally a brand of jeans called “superior jeans†right-wingers have a tendency to make-up leftist outrage, and they believe it bumpkins are gullible. |
The even more funny part about this whole ad is how in the comments you get the people who believe that they are going to hurt the left by purchasing these jeans to spite them. I have to say that the advertisers for this ad probably didn't think anything about their Ad since passing down jeans/genes is actually something that is done so they try to connect the dots but since the US is in this culture war BS, I can see advertisers taking more advantage of the situation and drumming up controversy over nothing just to sell a product. I think I am going to start selling water and calling it Freedom water and then find a way to have it hated on by one group or another so I can drum up some sells because one group will feel its going to make the other group butt hurt.
Chrkeller said:
Fully agreed. Which is why, personal opinion, the strategy of democrats needs to be re-tooled. How the left party thinks they are viewed and how they are actually viewed... massive gap. On the other side, the strategy for republicans is working. Sure it is BS talking points... but doesn't change the fact that it is working. So I think we are aligned here, at least for the most part. |
Yeah a big problem is that the left in recent years has been really bad at not distancing themselves from the extremists in their own ranks, so you get the perception that the majority of the left is those raving blue haired crazies just cos those ones are the loudest and the more sensible ones never seem to call out or condemn the radicals.
In this case, I don't think any rational person equates a smoking hot girl in jeans with Nazism, yet this message gets blasted across the internet anyway because the media hands a megaphone to the crazies and immediately it becomes a left vs right thing and everyone starts fighting for their "side" instead of stopping for a moment to think "actually, this is fucking stupid".
curl-6 said:
Yeah a big problem is that the left in recent years has been really bad at not distancing themselves from the extremists in their own ranks, so you get the perception that the majority of the left is those raving blue haired crazies just cos those ones are the loudest and the more sensible ones never seem to call out or condemn the radicals. In this case, I don't think any rational person equates a smoking hot girl in jeans with Nazism, yet this message gets blasted across the internet anyway because the media hands a megaphone to the crazies and immediately it becomes a left vs right thing and everyone starts fighting for their "side" instead of stopping for a moment to think "actually, this is fucking stupid". |
This exactly, well said. And if people don't come out against something, most are going to assume they agree.
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curl-6 said:
Yeah a big problem is that the left in recent years has been really bad at not distancing themselves from the extremists in their own ranks, so you get the perception that the majority of the left is those raving blue haired crazies just cos those ones are the loudest and the more sensible ones never seem to call out or condemn the radicals. In this case, I don't think any rational person equates a smoking hot girl in jeans with Nazism, yet this message gets blasted across the internet anyway because the media hands a megaphone to the crazies and immediately it becomes a left vs right thing and everyone starts fighting for their "side" instead of stopping for a moment to think "actually, this is fucking stupid". |
The far-right playbook is about making people believe that there is a culture war and people must pick a side. It is working because too many people are incapable of thinking rationally and allow their emotions to influence their decisions. Additionally, there's no reliable strategy to counter this. For one, you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't arrive at through reason. And two, stupid people have the habit of being unable to recognize their own stupidity.
Remember when we called you crazy curl around here (not for political reasons, but your views on Nintendo's future after the Wii U)? The best explanations in the world didn't work to get you back on track, because the prerequisite was always that you yourself recognized that you are behaving irrationally. Your feelings overruled all facts thrown your way.
That is in a nutshell why the far-right is able to gain support among voters despite proposing policies that are logically inconsistent, unrealistic or straight-up bonkers. They don't appeal to reason, they appeal to emotions. In the USA they stoked the irrational fear of trans people to get voters to voluntarily hand over their money and their rights despite all the evidence out there for how incompetent Trump is; he had already served as president for a full term and historians had already put him among the worst presidents the USA has ever had.
Gullible and stupid people usually only begin to recognize their errors when they start to really hurt them. As such, it won't matter if the Democrats can't come up with any new strategy; and they probably won't, because it's like I said, there's no reliable strategy to begin with.
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