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TheRealSamusAran said:

Oh, my bad, I was spreading misinformation, then. But I found out the PS2 backwards compatibility wasn't perfect, and even less so in the slim model: https://web.archive.org/web/20231126161836/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

What bc does the switch has besides verry expensive ports



 

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TheRealSamusAran said:

Oh, my bad, I was spreading misinformation, then. But I found out the PS2 backwards compatibility wasn't perfect, and even less so in the slim model: https://web.archive.org/web/20231126161836/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

Strange, a friend of mine had a Slim PS2, and every PS1 game worked on it without any problems. Even the games I downloaded and burned myself for him.



Alex_The_Hedgehog said:
TheRealSamusAran said:

Oh, my bad, I was spreading misinformation, then. But I found out the PS2 backwards compatibility wasn't perfect, and even less so in the slim model: https://web.archive.org/web/20231126161836/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

Strange, a friend of mine had a Slim PS2, and every PS1 game worked on it without any problems. Even the games I downloaded and burned myself for him.

I have the slim, the latest model that doesn't need a power brick even, and I've never had a single PS1 game not work on it, always worked just fine to me, and with several pirated games as well.



xl-klaudkil said:
TheRealSamusAran said:

Oh, my bad, I was spreading misinformation, then. But I found out the PS2 backwards compatibility wasn't perfect, and even less so in the slim model: https://web.archive.org/web/20231126161836/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

What bc does the switch has besides verry expensive ports

Actually a lot. Most games are improved. Digital foundry just put out a video on it

Edit - disregard that. I'm stupid

Last edited by SuperJortendo - on 28 June 2025

I like it when my mom goes out of town because I get to sleep on her side of the bed. -William Montgomery

Imagine actually laughing at the PS2 graphics leap while hyping Switch.

Gran Turismo 3 was pretty much a generational leap over Dreamcast's Sega GT (let alone PS1's GT2) AND ran at twice its and Forza Motorsport's framerate. The PS2 was designed different and difficult to develop for. Some early multiplats looked inferior to Dreamcast but its best exclusives were on a different level. Later multiplats were barely inferior to GameCube/Xbox (and not all of them. Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 PS2 version shat on the other versions. MGS2 and SH2 had superior effects to Xbox versions with MGS2 running twice the framerate). I owned all systems in that era including a gaming PC, the one multiplat I had that did look much better on Xbox was Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. Didn't need a side by side comparison to see the huge difference.

Gen 6 on the whole is the biggest generational jump in gaming history. It didn't really matter that Dreamcast had a headstart when you still got visually jaw dropping games in GT3 and MGS2 as early as 2001, and games kept looking better over the years on PS2/GC/Xbox. Riddick and Doom 3 were near generationally better than Dreamcast's best looking exclusives, and two generations better than PS1's lol.

Switch, which is a closed and optimised Nvidia Shield (launched 3 years earlier) was way behind 2013 home consoles. Makes sense since it's a handheld at its core, but it doesn't matter from a home console gamer's perspective. Nintendo killed their traditional home consoles by going "hybrid" and sacrificed graphics in the process. So unless you gamed exclusively on handhelds and never seen a home console game, the "jump" was backwards. Switch had no technological MGS2 or GT3 moment. Graphics hardly matter these days anyway, even highend PC's are meh in my eyes.

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xl-klaudkil said:
Wman1996 said:

Take my opinions with a grain of salt because I've never owned a PS2. It was one of the earliest consoles I played on, but not near as much as GameCube and some others.
Switch has
-One of Nintendo's best, very likely its best, first-party lineups
-The hybrid form factor. You can play Switch anywhere
-Third-party ports and multiplats like Stardew Valley, KOTOR, and Persona.
Don't see how PS2 can beat that in quality.

A large chunck of nintendo's game output where ports of older games,does that really count as a switch gen game?(not to me)

The majority of Switch's first party output was new games; BOTW, TOTK, Mario Odyssey, Mario Bros Wonder, Smash Bros Ultimate, Metroid Dread, Splatoon 2 and 3, Xenoblade 2 and 3, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Kirby Star Allies, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, Super Mario Party and Jamboree, Fire Emblem Three Houses and Engage, Paper Mario the Origami King, Animal Crossing, Bayonetta 3, Astral Chain, ARMS, Pikmin 4, Yoshi's Crafted World, Luigi's Mansion 3, Mario Maker 2, Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, Mario Kart Live, Ring Fit Adventure, Switch Sports, Princess Peach Showtime, Mario and Luigi Brothership...

That's one of the strongest first party lineups of all time even without counting ports/remasters.



If we don't count ports on the Switch, then PS2 would lose a 3rd of its library as well. PS2 got a bunch of Saturn/Dreamcast,classic games collections, Gamecube,PS1,PSP.Wii ports sold as PS2 discs.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

PS2 wasn't even better than PS1. Yeah I said what I said.



Soundwave said:

PS2 wasn't even better than PS1. Yeah I said what I said.

Yeah I honestly enjoyed PS1 and PS3 more than PS2. 

Also, while I didn't own a PS4, I've played enough of its games on Switch and PS5 to know I'd consider it a better console than PS2 as well.



curl-6 said:
xl-klaudkil said:

A large chunck of nintendo's game output where ports of older games,does that really count as a switch gen game?(not to me)

The majority of Switch's first party output was new games; BOTW, TOTK, Mario Odyssey, Mario Bros Wonder, Smash Bros Ultimate, Metroid Dread, Splatoon 2 and 3, Xenoblade 2 and 3, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Kirby Star Allies, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, Super Mario Party and Jamboree, Fire Emblem Three Houses and Engage, Paper Mario the Origami King, Animal Crossing, Bayonetta 3, Astral Chain, ARMS, Pikmin 4, Yoshi's Crafted World, Luigi's Mansion 3, Mario Maker 2, Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, Mario Kart Live, Ring Fit Adventure, Switch Sports, Princess Peach Showtime, Mario and Luigi Brothership...

That's one of the strongest first party lineups of all time even without counting ports/remasters.

Botw is a wiiu game.

Astral chain  made by nintendo? (Thought it whas a atlus game but i can be wrong)

Its a good list as i said before switch is one of the greatest in terms of first party exclusives there is noo doubt about it.

But ps2 had more and more divere lineup.

Xenoblade2 whas amazing thou i bought a switch for that.



 

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