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Switch 2 will be...

A success 59 83.10%
 
A disaster 2 2.82%
 
Somewhere in the middle. 10 14.08%
 
Total:71
Pemalite said:

Let me break it down.

Wii and WiiU share the same name. 

Wii and WiiU share the same PowerPC + Radeon graphics.

Wii and WiiU were literally built around a "controller gimmick".

Wii and WiiU both supported Wii controls in their games.

WiiU was literally the direct iterative successor to the Wii in every conceivable way.

You can argue all you want, but trying to rewrite history won't work here.

Wii and WiiU share a part of the same name. So do all PlayStations and all Xboxes.

Only a tiny tiny fraction of WiiU games supported Wii controllers or the Wii sensor bar.

Only a tiny tiny fraction of WiiU games supported motion controls, the focus was clearly on controls with sticks and buttons.



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AddRat said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Stopped in to one of the very few retailers here that still stocks consoles for about 10-30 thousand people depending on what direction some people wanna go, went in just out of curiosity, one of the agents won't give me details on stock but the stock isn't moving, a few people in and this counts online stock cause they are online and I store pick up. This place didn't have the PS5 for 2 and a half years, well they had it but everytime you'd go and check it'd be gone like Ninjas came in, in the night cause they sell online for in store pickup. I could have bought one on the spot. There's a Toy Store here that everyone goes to for these things too, I'm ring them in a bit just to see if I can fit in before they close, A place that until 2024 didn't have the PS5 stocked. If they have it then there are problems with this launch not to mention Nintendo will already have had constrained supply. Scalpers are also reducing their prices, I figure that the save ones are the ones hitting 40 above MSRP to shift them.


I know you have already decided on an outcome and are working backwards to find the proof but you must see how much you are grasping at straws here.

I'm extremely curious as to why half the places I look online are stocked and half aren't. Places with big populace areas that didn't have the PS5 are stocked but others you'd stick would be stocked, lesser known places are fresh out. I have made know decision, I only want fact and it's way to early to tell. If you can't understand why someone on a video games site is being anal and over zealous about Console stock instead of implying fan boy, take a step back. 

Lots of anecdotal stuff too is making me extra interested and to find out what is happening in different regions. I wanna know what's true and how this is unfolding, I wanna see where we are starting to give indication of where we are gonna end up. 

Last edited by LegitHyperbole - on 06 June 2025

I will buy it in 1 month I cannot wait



Pemalite said:
zorg1000 said:

Well no, I’ve brought up specific things that you have not addressed like WE vs YOU strategy, Wii focusing on being different vs Wii U trying to get PS3/360 ports.

Also, supporting something and focusing on something are different things. Wii was based around motion controls, it was the primary hook of the system. Yes, Wii U has a gyroscope and supports Wii Remotes but that aspect was not the focus, the focus was on its tablet controller. Thats like saying the PS5 controller has a gyroscope, therefore motion controls are a major focus for Sony.



I’ll try to expand upon some of those points:

Wii U was not an iterative successor because it abandoned the core strategy that made Wii popular. Wii’s “gimmick” had a purpose, the Wii Remote was built around being accessible to as many people as possible and reaching underserved demographics like casual gamers and lapsed gamers. Nintendo was not trying to take PS/XB head on.

Wii U went against this strategy by making a big, bulky tablet controller that didn’t really serve a purpose. The few games that tried to do something unique with it were duds and it basically became a map/inventory screen for most games. Nintendo also went out of their way to try and appeal to PS/XB gamers by trying get multiplats, not realizing those people were either content with their PS3/360 or ready to move on to more powerful hardware.

Wii U was basically a half assed attempt to retain the Wii crowd while also bringing in the PS/XB crowd and it failed at doing both because it abandoned the core philosophy of Wii and thought “different for the sake of being different” was what made it popular and it offered no real incentive for PS/XB gamers to jump ship. It was a directionless console that appealed to no one but die hard fans of Nintendo.

Let me break it down.

Wii and WiiU share the same name. 

So if PS5 was named Vita 2, it would be an iterative successor to Vita? Name doesn’t mean shit

Wii and WiiU share the same PowerPC + Radeon graphics.

I agreed with you on this point

Wii and WiiU were literally built around a "controller gimmick".

Controller gimmicks that were completely different from one another. One was based around accessibility, the other with no clear goal.

Wii and WiiU both supported Wii controls in their games.

I literally just went over how support & focus are completely different things.

WiiU was literally the direct iterative successor to the Wii in every conceivable way.

I just gave multiple paragraphs explaining key ways the premise of the systems are different.

You can argue all you want, but trying to rewrite history won't work here.

I’m not rewriting history, you’re just refusing to acknowledge context or nuance. Wii U was trying to be a “best of both worlds” for the Wii & PS/XB crowds and ended up appealing to neither.



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LegitHyperbole said:
AddRat said:


I know you have already decided on an outcome and are working backwards to find the proof but you must see how much you are grasping at straws here.

I'm extremely curious as to why half the places I look online are stocked and half aren't. Places with big populace areas that didn't have the PS5 are stocked but others you'd stick would be stocked, lesser known places are fresh out. I have made know decision, I only want fact and it's way to early to tell. If you can't understand why someone on a video games site is being anal and over zealous about Console stock instead of implying fan boy, take a step back. 

Lots of anecdotal stuff too is making me extra interested and to find out what is happening in different regions. I wanna know what's true and only what's true. 

idk about the Switch 2 situation where you live, but the PS5 didn't had enough stock because it released during the pandemic and during a global chip shortage.

This meant demand was higher but there was a cap on how fast Sony could produce PS5s due to the shortage.

None of that is true for the Switch 2. Nintendo could plan accordingly and... just produce enough units. 



 

RedKingXIII said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I'm extremely curious as to why half the places I look online are stocked and half aren't. Places with big populace areas that didn't have the PS5 are stocked but others you'd stick would be stocked, lesser known places are fresh out. I have made know decision, I only want fact and it's way to early to tell. If you can't understand why someone on a video games site is being anal and over zealous about Console stock instead of implying fan boy, take a step back. 

Lots of anecdotal stuff too is making me extra interested and to find out what is happening in different regions. I wanna know what's true and only what's true. 

idk about the Switch 2 situation where you live, but the PS5 didn't had enough stock because it released during the pandemic and during a global chip shortage.

This meant demand was higher but there was a cap on how fast Sony could produce PS5s due to the shortage.

None of that is true for the Switch 2. Nintendo could plan accordingly and... just produce enough units. 

Yet it still followed the exact same graph as the PS4 when aligned and continues to do so. 



LegitHyperbole said:
AddRat said:


I know you have already decided on an outcome and are working backwards to find the proof but you must see how much you are grasping at straws here.

I'm extremely curious as to why half the places I look online are stocked and half aren't. Places with big populace areas that didn't have the PS5 are stocked but others you'd stick would be stocked, lesser known places are fresh out. I have made know decision, I only want fact and it's way to early to tell. If you can't understand why someone on a video games site is being anal and over zealous about Console stock instead of implying fan boy, take a step back. 

Lots of anecdotal stuff too is making me extra interested and to find out what is happening in different regions. I wanna know what's true and how this is unfolding, I wanna see where we are starting to give indication of where we are gonna end up. 

I don't know where you are trying to take this but I said you have an already formed opinion on how Switch 2 is going to perform and are working backwards to find anecdotal indications to support that. Never said anything about the validity of being overly focused on stock on a videogame sales forum. I also care to find out how consoles are selling, otherwise I would not be here. I am however not going to take the anecdotal evidence that stores around here are selling out as an indication that Switch 2 has had an amazing launch because it I don't know what the supply quantity Nintendo provided.

Moreover, the part about PS4 following the same graph as PS5 is flat out wrong. PS5 fell behind for about 5 million at some point, exactly because of the supply problems before boosting back up when the supply situation improved.




AddRat said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I'm extremely curious as to why half the places I look online are stocked and half aren't. Places with big populace areas that didn't have the PS5 are stocked but others you'd stick would be stocked, lesser known places are fresh out. I have made know decision, I only want fact and it's way to early to tell. If you can't understand why someone on a video games site is being anal and over zealous about Console stock instead of implying fan boy, take a step back. 

Lots of anecdotal stuff too is making me extra interested and to find out what is happening in different regions. I wanna know what's true and how this is unfolding, I wanna see where we are starting to give indication of where we are gonna end up. 

I don't know where you are trying to take this but I said you have an already formed opinion on how Switch 2 is going to perform and are working backwards to find anecdotal indications to support that. Never said anything about the validity of being overly focused on stock on a videogame sales forum. I also care to find out how consoles are selling, otherwise I would not be here. I am however not going to take the anecdotal evidence that stores around here are selling out as an indication that Switch 2 has had an amazing launch because it I don't know what the supply quantity Nintendo provided.

Moreover, the part about PS4 following the same graph as PS5 is flat out wrong. PS5 fell behind for about 5 million at some point, exactly because of the supply problems before boosting back up when the supply situation improved.


I know exactly what you're saying and I am telling you, you're wrong. 



So through the first two days of Switch 2's availability the only negative thing people could find so far is that the incompetence of one store's employees damaged Switch 2 consoles.

Haters are going to suffer indeed.



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