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Good reveal, nice to see what the console is going to look like.
Definitely a conservative design which refines what we already had, rather than re-invent the wheel or push boundaries.

Youtube compression doesn't really let me break down all the nuances with the Mario Kart footage, but definitely a cleaner image output, but the rendering complexity isn't a huge leap over Mario Kart 8, but the world is rendering a much larger scale... Need more (and better footage) to really see what we are looking at though.

Will be a day 1 purchase for me, but will still hang onto both my OLED Switch consoles due to the better display.



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The sensation I had... is they only did this video because everything was already leaked but they do not have yet a great bunch of games to show in a playable mode. That Mario Kart everyone is talking about... is probably just a prototype demo, or maybe just a concept. (I can be totally wrong).
They got for themselves 2 and half months more now, to not saying a single word about Switch 2 (roll eyes). A "trick" more interesting to be analysed, now, than the console itself (we already saw it, and probably we already know the finals specs, all leaked).

But this is NOT the worse Nintendo console presentation: People maybe do not remember how that black Wii prototype, the "Revolution", was presented in 2005 E3: Yeah, very amazing for the good news, but not a single game shown, only Iwata talking about random and not that interesting things. Not even the Wii-mote was presented, until literally a year later, in the next E3. Wii was a total mystery during 1 year. (Well... Iwata talked about the future Virtual Console, but just that).
What we got was the GameBoy Micro, which was TOTALLY forgotten, by EVERYONE, like 3 months after its launch, in fact.

Also... the WiiU presentation in 2011, one year and a half before its release (again in the E3) got a lot of "gameplay" in demos and concepts, but it was a total meh.

Seeing the panorama...I have the feeling they will release Switch 2 in october or november. I hope I'm wrong, because I wanted it much before, for April or May, but obviously this cannot be anymore (they will not release the console during its "presentation tour" around the world).

If my theory is true... there is a possibility Switch 2 and GTA VI... could be released on the same dates... Woops.



Well, I'm glad this trailer finally dropped, and we have a date for the actual presentation.  However, it is kind of a meh trailer.  They just showed off hardware and teased one game.

Do you remember the equivalent trailer for Switch 1?  It blew me away.  They showed off hardware while teasing several games and the trailer was exciting.  Here watch it again:

Also remember that the idea of hybrid console, the joycons, the fact it plays with different kinds of controllers, etc..., these were all new concepts at the time.  There was so much new stuff in this trailer that a person had to watch it several times just to wrap their head around it.  This Switch 2 trailer was definitely not that.  This trailer we got today was ok, but really Nintendo should have wanted their first impression to be exciting and not just ok.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

Well, I'm glad this trailer finally dropped, and we have a date for the actual presentation.  However, it is kind of a meh trailer.  They just showed off hardware and teased one game.

Do you remember the equivalent trailer for Switch 1?  It blew me away.  They showed off hardware while teasing several games and the trailer was exciting.  Here watch it again:

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Also remember that the idea of hybrid console, the joycons, the fact it plays with different kinds of controllers, etc..., these were all new concepts at the time.  There was so much new stuff in this trailer that a person had to watch it several times just to wrap their head around it.  This Switch 2 trailer was definitely not that.  This trailer we got today was ok, but really Nintendo should have wanted their first impression to be exciting and not just ok.

It's yet another case of people setting the wrong expectations for themselves. Ever since Furukawa's announcement regarding Nintendo having an announcement for Switch's successor this fiscal year while simultaneously confirming that the successor won't launch this fiscal year, it should have been clear that said upcoming announcement would be on the low-key side. But just like it has happened so often with Nintendo Directs, people have the wildest dreams of what they are going to get and then come away disappointed when the actual Direct was just good.

The excitement that can be derived from this trailer is that the Switch era of an avalanche of good games to play won't come to an end during this decade and can potentially last until the mid-2030s before we have to worry about Nintendo's good run hitting a wall again.

The excitement you remember from the equivalent Switch 1 trailer is a very personal one, because the general tone of the reception was very different. The gaming community as a whole didn't waste a second to declare doom for Nintendo because Switch clearly wasn't a console that the AAA third party publishers wanted. Nintendo fans specifically were cautious too after having just lived through the Wii U disaster.

But now for Switch 2, what are the reactions? I don't see anybody betting against the success of the system. People who hate Nintendo struggle to come up with anything negative to say, so we'll get to read about how some people don't like the logo. Or the next instance of people recognizing the diminishing returns of evolving graphics; this one doesn't surprise me, because the PS5 reveal couldn't escape such criticism either and screenshots were analyzed with spyglasses to assure others that there are notable improvements.

Switch 2 happens to be exactly what the rumors back in 2023 already suggested: A better Switch. Nothing more, nothing less. The next pressing question after the hardware has been confirmed is how the software lineup will look like. This will be answered in early April, but there's a good reason to be optimistic about it, because Nintendo was not only in the position to take their time to get it right due to Switch's success, they did indeed take the time instead of rushing out a successor. So there is a good chance that Switch 2 can follow in Switch 1's footsteps of having a very strong first year in terms of first party software.



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RolStoppable said:

It's yet another case of people setting the wrong expectations for themselves. Ever since Furukawa's announcement regarding Nintendo having an announcement for Switch's successor this fiscal year while simultaneously confirming that the successor won't launch this fiscal year, it should have been clear that said upcoming announcement would be on the low-key side. But just like it has happened so often with Nintendo Directs, people have the wildest dreams of what they are going to get and then come away disappointed when the actual Direct was just good.

I don't think its much about having unrealistic expectations but just questioning the value of such a stand alone trailer when they could obviously do a way more exciting reveal and still left plenty for a bigger event. That in itself is fair observation regardless of what was expected of Nintendo. It's just calling a spade a spade. 

We also don't know the behind the scenes are either, so I wouldn't defend this route as if we know it was always Nintendo's intention and optimal version of events. For sure though, none of this matters in the long run in terms of a successful launch, so its just a matter of discussing preference.



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Wondering when we get the first 3rd party gameplay reveals.



I do like the look of the device.



Evilms said:

Disclaimer: I know this is just a rumour, so understand my comment as speculation based on the screenshot provided 

Comparison to standard PS4

CPU: 1024 Gflops, 1600 MHz, 8 cores

GPU: 1843 Gflops, 18 CUs, 800 MHz, 1152 cores

RAM: 8GB, 256 bit, bandwidth 176 GB/s

PS4 Pro

CPU: 1344 Gflops, 2130 MHz, 8 cores

GPU: 4197 Gflops, 36 CUs, 911 MHz, 2304 cores

RAM: 8GB, 256 bit, bandwidth 217 GB/s

I understand this is not 1:1 comparison because the architectures are different, but looks slightly weaker than PS4 on Handheld mode and between PS4 and PS4 Pro docked which is... pretty good actually! Must be enough to receive many of current gen games (granted, at low res and 30 FPS), except the ones that are coming later for PS5/Xbox

I'm curious to see if it runs PS4 games better than PS4 Pro



Otter said:

I don't think its much about having unrealistic expectations but just questioning the value of such a stand alone trailer when they could obviously do a way more exciting reveal and still left plenty for a bigger event. That in itself is fair observation regardless of what was expected of Nintendo. It's just calling a spade a spade. 

We also don't know the behind the scenes are either, so I wouldn't defend this route as if we know it was always Nintendo's intention and optimal version of events. For sure though, none of this matters in the long run in terms of a successful launch, so its just a matter of discussing preference.



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Doubt it. If they want third parties to announce their games they would have prepared a joined showcase. More likely than not, the first wave of third parties would be ports, but regardless a 1 hour length presentation with dozen of third party ports new to Nintendo's would immeditely demonstrate there will be many new games to play