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The UK rioters are made up of...

The Far right 13 50.00%
 
Some Far right, mostly normal people. 2 7.69%
 
Normal everyday working class people 8 30.77%
 
A mix of both 3 11.54%
 
Total:26
JRPGfan said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I just seen the US border Czar say the same thing, Biden unsecured the border and let a million in. Gotta wonder why did they do this, no way was it to be the solution to the problem, there has to be a deeper purpose. 

Cheap labour? thats all I got.

Accelerationism...



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Looks like Marine Le Pen’s Reassemblement nationale has led a successful effort to topple the latest French government just 74 days after it was formed.

France government collapses again after prime minister forced out - USA Today



What the fuck is going on. The world just can't seem to hold together. There's shit happening everywhere.



LegitHyperbole said:

What the fuck is going on. The world just can't seem to hold together. There's shit happening everywhere.

By coincidence or design? Perhaps there is a need for a uhhhhhh 'Great Reset'?



LegitHyperbole said:

What the fuck is going on. The world just can't seem to hold together. There's shit happening everywhere.

There's a reason why places, Countries, etc, like Europe, went from lesser larger bodies of land, to more smaller bodies of land. This is why the USA was formed the way it was, though in retrospect, it should've been broken up even further, or the process in which to do that relatively easily, been put in place back then.

The more wealthy certain area's within the world and the Countries within them become, the more people want to be separate from those who are different enough from them. Dealing with differences becomes seen by privileged people as a limited time thing that they simply need to live with from time to time, not all the time.

The only way to make almost everyone live together and be ok with it in large 'sustainable' bodies, is to make sure they can all only attain the same level of wealth. Problem with this is that there will always be some people who simply won't tolerate this, and for the majority who did, they will always be made to be equally poor. That's the way it always ends up. Another reason why the USA was set up the way it was.



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SanAndreasX said:

Looks like Marine Le Pen’s Reassemblement nationale has led a successful effort to topple the latest French government just 74 days after it was formed.

France government collapses again after prime minister forced out - USA Today

Just to quickly recap events.

Macron called an early election to try to pit the far-right and left against each other so that his centre-right party can come out on top, it backfired and the left wing formed a coalition which resulted in them winning the most seats in the French elections, Macron's party came 2nd and the far-right came 3rd but nobody won a majority.

Macron because he is allergic to working with left-wing parties, decided to throw the far-right a bone by making a right-wing coalition and appointing a right winger as PM. This annoyed the left wing party because they won the most seats but Macron completely ignored them. Macron thought by throwing the far-right a bone they would stay out of his way.

Macron's new PM tries to pass a budget which both the far-right and left don't like, the PM decided to push the budget anyway through bypassing parliament, it pissed them off further and the left and far right united to do a vote of no confidence which resulted in the new government being toppled. Now Macron has to do it all over again and find another new PM.

TLDR.

  1. Macron calls a snap election.
  2. Thought he could easily beat both left wing alliance and the far right.
  3. Left wing won the most seats.
  4. Macron ignored the left wing.
  5. Tried to placate with the far-right.
  6. It backfired.

If he wasn't allergic to working with the left then this could have been avoided. Macron is an absolute clown when it comes to domestic politics, I wish he would just piss off to EU/NATO or something like that because I do strongly agree with many of his foreign policy stances but domestically he is an idiot who has some weird ass hate of the left.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 05 December 2024