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BFR said:
zorg1000 said:

You’re comparing right wing propaganda to media with a liberal lean, not the same.

Right wing media spend the months leading up to the election pushing lies like Haitians are stealing and eating pets and FEMA was actively sabotaging hurricane relief efforts.

On the other hand, the “liberal mainstream media” would sanewash the absolutely insane shit Trump was saying in an effort to not appear biased.

Are you saying Fox News, the #1 news channel in the USA, is right wing propaganda?

But didn't Trump say this about them?

Trump says ‘Fox News is not our friend,’ claims it’s airing ‘Democrat ads’

https://thehill.com/media/4968450-trump-fox-news-not-our-friend-claiming-its-airing-democrat-ads/

Yes it is…….is this some sort of gotcha? Trump being a baby isn’t proof of anything, he talks shit about everybody.

like Torillian said, Fox had to pay $800m because they were caught knowingly spreading lies about the 2020 election and like I said, they spent the last few months spreading lies about Haitian immigrants & hurricane relief to help Trump win.



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BFR said:

Interesting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/24/technology/mark-zuckerberg-trump-politics.html

I've seen a few places recently suggesting conspiracy theories that Zuck will run in 2028 and use Facebook as an edge.

If they're saying he's done with politics, I'm assuming the opposite is true. Maybe, maybe not. We'll see.



BFR said:

Are you saying Fox News, the #1 news channel in the USA, is right wing propaganda?

But didn't Trump say this about them?

Trump says ‘Fox News is not our friend,’ claims it’s airing ‘Democrat ads’

https://thehill.com/media/4968450-trump-fox-news-not-our-friend-claiming-its-airing-democrat-ads/

Left wingers constantly criticize the main stream media. That must be proof that they're not actually left wing. 

BFR said:

Interesting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/24/technology/mark-zuckerberg-trump-politics.html

And Gabe Newell is libertarian, and yet the platform has tons of different political games from far left and far right. 



Welcome to "Liberal World"

Here NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, MSNBC, and CNN = “liberal mainstream media”

Whereas,

Fox News = "right wing propaganda"

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Gotta love the hypocrisy.



EricHiggin said:

- Well if Biden and Harris didn't make any, it must mean the, only, option, is another forever war, unfortunately...

- The right is now Progressive, but not Progressive? Poor and middle class MAGA blue collars want to enrich elite white collars? Wait what?...

You're the one telling me there's another option, and yet you don't seem to be able to tell me what it is.

A major problem in politics is that people frequently don't know what they're voting for.

Republican politicians tend to be more extreme than Republican voters, and yet the opposite is likely true for Democrats - Democratic voters are probably more left wing than the people than they vote for. 



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the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:

- Well if Biden and Harris didn't make any, it must mean the, only, option, is another forever war, unfortunately...

- The right is now Progressive, but not Progressive? Poor and middle class MAGA blue collars want to enrich elite white collars? Wait what?...

You're the one telling me there's another option, and yet you don't seem to be able to tell me what it is.

A major problem in politics is that people frequently don't know what they're voting for.

Republican politicians tend to be more extreme than Republican voters, and yet the opposite is likely true for Democrats - Democratic voters are probably more left wing than the people than they vote for. 

- Because I know what the reply will end with. Those deals, won't be good enough, because Orange Man would make them. So why does it matter?

- Likely, and probably? Nope, sorry. Don't know what they're voting for either. Can't force people to pay attention, can't force them to learn, and can't change any voting rules to fix that because then you might be taking away some peoples rights. So?



BFR said:

Welcome to "Liberal World"

Here NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, MSNBC, and CNN = “liberal mainstream media”

Whereas,

Fox News = "right wing propaganda"

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Gotta love the hypocrisy.

Just show me their dominion lawsuit for lying and we can talk about them being the same level of propaganda. Seems like you're avoiding talking in specifics so that you can just vaguely gesture. 



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EricHiggin said:
the-pi-guy said:

You're the one telling me there's another option, and yet you don't seem to be able to tell me what it is.

A major problem in politics is that people frequently don't know what they're voting for.

Republican politicians tend to be more extreme than Republican voters, and yet the opposite is likely true for Democrats - Democratic voters are probably more left wing than the people than they vote for. 

- Because I know what the reply will end with. Those deals, won't be good enough, because Orange Man would make them. So why does it matter?

- Likely, and probably? Nope, sorry. Don't know what they're voting for either. Can't force people to pay attention, can't force them to learn, and can't change any voting rules to fix that because then you might be taking away some peoples rights. So?

You've learned well from Trump, best to stay vague so you don't have to deal with criticism of your ideas. 



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the-pi-guy said:

And Gabe Newell is libertarian, and yet the platform has tons of different political games from far left and far right. 

Which actually is something I would expect from a true libertarian, to allow for every ideology to be expressed. Many who claim to be libertarian though fast pull a break if they don't like another ideology.

I see myself as a supporter of freedoms, but with restrictions. So I am not a libertarian. If I made Steam I would probably allow less. On the other hand I see freedom in a multitude of platforms coexisting (in the case of the internet).



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BFR said:

Welcome to "Liberal World"

Here NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, MSNBC, and CNN = “liberal mainstream media”

Whereas,

Fox News = "right wing propaganda"

-----------------------------------------------

Gotta love the hypocrisy.

Welcome to "Spherical world"

Here NASA, science books, globe manufacturers, SpaceX

Whereas

Flat Earth Society = "flat Earth propaganda"

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Gotta love the hypocrisy. 

Quantity is not what makes something propaganda. Misinformation is.