The capability is there; how it is utilized is going to be down to developer choice. PS5/Xbox Series don't have amazing RT capabilities either honestly, yet there are still a number of titles that utilize it. Star Wars Outlaws is using Ray traced global illumination on other platforms, so unless they've totally redone the lighting model, the Switch 2 port of that will be an example. 

Yeah but that isn't really my point.  RT on consoles is low.  When RT is low the quality difference between baked in and RT is negligible.  RE4 is an example of this.  RT on or off is minor at best.  RT shows a stark difference when high, which consoles can't handle, especially the S2.  We are a generation away before we see the real benefits of RT.  Low RT versus off makes no difference in most games.  Half the time I pause the screen and have to hunt to even notice what low RT does.  Now extreme RT is gorgeous but also gives my 4090 20 fps.  

Yeah but that isn't really my point.  RT on consoles is low.  When RT is low the quality difference between baked in and RT is negligible.  RE4 is an example of this.  RT on or off is minor at best.  RT shows a stark difference when high, which consoles can't handle, especially the S2.  We are a generation away before we see the real benefits of RT.  Low RT versus off makes no difference in most games.  Half the time I pause the screen and have to hunt to even notice what low RT does.  Now extreme RT is gorgeous but also gives my 4090 20 fps.  

If we're talking perception, one could argue that say going from 1080p on PS4 to 4K on PS5 isn't a huge perceptible difference due to diminishing returns, but there's still a major technical difference between the two, same for say realtime vs baked shadows, volumetrics vs alpha for things like smoke/fog, etc.

Personally, I find the difference between even console RT and 8th gen rasterized lighting can be pretty significant in games like say Metro Exodus.

I will guess you've seen this video, but if you haven't...

There is no fallback...as in, most games that have RT option, have it on certain things, but with still a lot of things being solved the other way if RT is disabled. Not so for SWO.

I will guess you've seen this video, but if you haven't...

There is no fallback...as in, most games that have RT option, have it on certain things, but with still a lot of things being solved the other way if RT is disabled. Not so for SWO.

Preaching to the choir.  Resolution is overrated.  O can't tell the difference between 1440p and 4k.  I tend to go 1440p for 100 fps over 4k 60 fps.  Resolution is diminishing returns.  Fps aren't.  120 fps is bliss.  

Perhaps the reason we aren't aligned is I'm all about fps.  30 fps can go **** itself.  

Both are diminishing returns, a lot of people do not care for 120fps. I was playing Penny's Big Breakaway at 120fps and didn't even realise. Console and PCs spaces are also very different in terms of audience expectation.

A lot people said the same for 60fps, now almost every game has performance mode. That shows people do care. Performance is must these days for several genres, it effects gameplay and response time in a meaningful way. Switch 2 has not shown it can give you much better performance then PS4 in most ports so that's why DF and many others think it's much closer to PS4. Personally I think it all opinion based, if you care about performance then it's  fair opinion.

A lot people said the same for 60fps, now almost every game has performance mode. That shows people do care. Performance is must these days for several genres, it effects gameplay and response time in a meaningful way. Switch 2 has not shown it can give you much better performance then PS4 in most ports so that's why DF and many others think it's much closer to PS4. Personally I think it all opinion based, if you care about performance then it's a  fair opinion.