Nice derailment lol. Arguing about analog sticks while switching between innovating, inventing and popularizing at will lol.

Anyway stop looking at the past. Sony did bring Foveated Rendering (PSVR) and now Eye Tracking Foveated Rendering (PSVR2) to VR first afaik. However there biggest recent 'innovation' is letting go of the Move controllers. They worked at the time and was an affordable continuation from eye toy to VR. Sure the Sense controllers copied everything from other controllers, for the better.

On the console front Sony has only been going backwards. No CD support, ps4 and ps5 pale in comparison to the PS3 when it comes to media center capabilities. I still prefer the ps3 UI and PS5's UI is a pita that I have to go into the game library since it won't put more than 10 games on the main screen... You first have to 'activate' a game parked in the library before you can check if they have an update, piss poor. (I guess the restriction is so auto-updates don't update your entire library?)

Series X is no better in the UI department and the 4K blu-ray player doesn't even remember where you left off. I put a blu-ray in ps3 and it still continues where I last left it, skipping all the FBI crap, starts playing straight away. I've been watching ST Strange new worlds and TloU on Series X (4K Blu-ray) and have to go through the FBI warnings and menus every night, it doesn't even remember my language settings. Just poor. (Maybe ps5 does it better yet Series X is on the 4K HDR port of my tv since PS5 is just doing VR for now)

Nintendo ditched the 2nd screen functionality by having to stick the Switch inside the dock. It would have been so much better to have TotK's UI in my hands with touch screen controls while playing HUD free on TV. As a console gamer WiiU to Switch was a downgrade.

And now both MS and Sony are ready to ditch the disc drive entirely. Consoles keep getting less features instead of more.

However I played GT7 again on PSVR2 last night, simply amazing. It's a shame the UI is still 2D, as well as the pit stops (very jarring), yet being able to seamlessly drive in VR in the entire game is a game changer. TotK delivered the innovation in game design. BG3 showed what RPGs can do with choices. FS2020 showed the real power of the Cloud. Plenty stuff still to get excited about, just not console hardware anymore. (counting PSVR2 as an peripheral)

I kind of like Sony not innovating. Simple naming, clear power upgrade, digital games carry over (starting with ps5) and reasonably priced. I love it.

This thread has really become an off-topic hub, lol.
I also have my small share in this, but we really should refocus on the debate regarding the value of Phil Spencer's statements.

Why?  Isn't he retiring?

There is no value in Phil Spencer's statements

With Forbidden West being early next year it seems big single player releases like that will take about a couple years going forward so it can be expected to happen either late 2025 or early 2026. 

Yeah pretty good post i can agree with a lot of what you say here. I guess its since my first experience using it to watch a movie was pretty good since i was using a PC VR headset that had a higher field of view than say the PSVR1. But even than like you said it still wouldnt be as clear as if i was watching it on my 4k screen but i found the experiance pretty good imo and great for 3D movies much better than the samsung 3D tv i used to have before i got my 4k samsung to be honest.

But yeah people expecting to go in and get the same quality they would on their TV are going to be in for some disappointment unless they are running one of them 8k or 16k primax headsets .

Meta is my main reason why i was leaning towards a PSVR2 headset as my next one if Sony brought support for PC, but they didnt and i need a new headset so Quest 3 it has to be :-/ .

How could anyone agree with this post when you are crediting Sony for things other company's done before them. Some of them i even mentioned.

Ok some of them, at the same time many of them are innovative.you give nintendo credit for the analog for the way it's been implemented because analog control in games existed way before mario 64, so you can give sony credit as well.    

duel-sense controller was innovative not ground breaking but differently innovative and playing astro playroom really did feel like something i have never experienced before.