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Pemalite on 30 July 2023
JRPGfan said:
Pemalite said:

I have seen external BD-Rom drives at my local PC store for $25 AUD. - About $15 USD. - That includes cables, case, packaging etc'.

So I would imagine, Sony buying in Bulk and stripping all that fluff would get it cheaper.

But... There is the cost of Digital Distribution vs Physical.

Even if in terms of BoM, its only like 15-20$ maybe, I could see them putting the disk drives up for sale at a profit.
This could offset the PS5 sell cost abit (probably not by much), along with the "digital distribution vs physical" aspect (again probably not doing much).

I think it would be amasing if they could get discless PS5 (perhaps slim) down to like 349$, instead of just the predictable keeping it at 399$.

Xbox Series S, is going for 299$.
Getting within 50$ of it, and oftering more than twice the performance/resolution, along with better storage/space than the S, would be big.
ontop of that, going from 349$ PS5 to a 499$ xbox series X, would be a big cost increase (150$ more for a xbox).

Stuff like that can matter in terms of sales.

They would murder the Series S in sales more than they are already.

But, if Sony can reduce the cost of the PS5 to $349, I would imagine the Series S could drop below $199 as a chunk of costs are shared commodity costs between Series S and the Playstation 5. (NAND, Ram, SoC, Blu-tooth/Wifi/USB controllers/HDMI/Fans/Heatsinks/Mosfets/inductors/various IC's/Caps etc')



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BraLoD on 30 July 2023
super_etecoon said:
BraLoD said:

I mean, when your console is clearly inspired by Seto Kaiba himself, you can't say its not a big win design wise.

I can’t argue against that. I mean, I could, but it wouldn’t do much good. When that’s where your starting point is we’re just on completely different planets. To be fair, the XBox Series X awakened in me a latent trypophobia, so at least it’s not a visceral reaction I have against it. 

I actually quite like the Series X looking like a mini fridge.



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Hiku on 30 July 2023
BraLoD said:

Yeah, the heatsink was massive, but the Slim is very likely coming with an apu redesign, maybe even phasing out the liquid metal as well, that should be the major point of doing it.

And we would probably be getting rumors of that smaller apu already if that would be getting released in around 3 months from now.

I doubt we will see the Slim release this year, but who knows.

What would be the real estate benefit of not having liquid metal? Wouldn't they need another fan instead, which takes up more space?

And Microsoft's comment is the main reason I am hoping for a Slim this year. Pretty weird that they would be that specific about the price and date if they don't know something.

As for PS5's look, I really disliked it the first time I saw it. Now I think it looks fine, if it wasn't so huge that is.
So a smaller version could be perfect.

Kinda like those bootleg PS5's from Aliexpress.



BasilZero on 30 July 2023
BraLoD said:

It's actually quite pretty in person

Oh its pretty alright, pretty big.



-Adonis- on 30 July 2023

Ah ok I understand why there are temporary discount on some countries now.



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BraLoD on 30 July 2023
Hiku said:
BraLoD said:

Yeah, the heatsink was massive, but the Slim is very likely coming with an apu redesign, maybe even phasing out the liquid metal as well, that should be the major point of doing it.

And we would probably be getting rumors of that smaller apu already if that would be getting released in around 3 months from now.

I doubt we will see the Slim release this year, but who knows.

What would be the real estate benefit of not having liquid metal? Wouldn't they need another fan instead, which takes up more space?

And Microsoft's comment is the main reason I am hoping for a Slim this year. Pretty weird that they would be that specific about the price and date if they don't know something.

As for PS5's look, I really disliked it the first time I saw it. Now I think it looks fine, if it wasn't so huge that is.
So a smaller version could be perfect.

Kinda like those bootleg PS5's from Aliexpress.

Liquid metal is likely a bit more expensive than thermal paste, and I think the process to assemble it should be quite different, considering the extra layers of protection the apu needs because of that, which can become a few millions in savings.

I dunno if they would actually need another fan, even as liquid metal is better than thermal paste it should not make that much difference in final temps. I think there are some videos out there with people using thermal paste and it working just fine, just a bit hotter.



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JackHandy on 30 July 2023
Chrkeller said:

I love my ps5 but Christ is it a tank.

It's funny. When I heard the rumors of late July-early or mid-August for a new PS5 model, I actually rushed out and told my GF that I wanted a disc-based PS5 now for my birthday, despite my actual birthday being at the end of August. Why? Because when it comes to consoles, I always like to collect the original iteration, not the revisions (cosmetic or major functional changes). So she went ahead and bought me a PS5 early, and man... I couldn't be happier. Not that the new console will be bad or anything, I'm sure it won't. But if I hadn't nabbed the OG, I'd have had to get it used, and that would have sucked. 



BraLoD on 30 July 2023
JackHandy said:
Chrkeller said:

I love my ps5 but Christ is it a tank.

It's funny. When I heard the rumors of late July-early or mid-August for a new PS5 model, I actually rushed out and told my GF that I wanted a disc-based PS5 now for my birthday, despite my actual birthday being at the end of August. Why? Because when it comes to consoles, I always like to collect the original iteration, not the revisions (cosmetic or major functional changes). So she went ahead and bought me a PS5 early, and man... I couldn't be happier. Not that the new console will be bad or anything, I'm sure it won't. But if I hadn't nabbed the OG, I'd have had to get it used, and that would have sucked. 

So you always get the OG model?

The PS5 is the first one I didn't get the last revision, mostly because I've ever been 1 or 2 gens behind the actual one, lol, but it kinda did make me think if I should not wait for the PS5 slim back then xD



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JackHandy on 30 July 2023
BraLoD said:
JackHandy said:

It's funny. When I heard the rumors of late July-early or mid-August for a new PS5 model, I actually rushed out and told my GF that I wanted a disc-based PS5 now for my birthday, despite my actual birthday being at the end of August. Why? Because when it comes to consoles, I always like to collect the original iteration, not the revisions (cosmetic or major functional changes). So she went ahead and bought me a PS5 early, and man... I couldn't be happier. Not that the new console will be bad or anything, I'm sure it won't. But if I hadn't nabbed the OG, I'd have had to get it used, and that would have sucked. 

So you always get the OG model?

The PS5 is the first one I didn't get the last revision, mostly because I've ever been 1 or 2 gens behind the actual one, lol, but it kinda did make me think if I should not wait for the PS5 slim back then xD

It's just a quirk of mine. I don't sell them, I collect them. And I find the original models to have the most collectability. Slim versions, and super slims... they usually are technically superior mechanically and functionally, but it's the original model that normally leaves the most indelible mark on the public; more iconic etc. 



Alex_The_Hedgehog on 30 July 2023
BraLoD said:
Signalstar said:

I think the PS5 design is gorgeous. Impractical but gorgeous.

I mean, when your console is clearly inspired by Seto Kaiba himself, you can't say its not a big win design wise.

I like this one:

I'm curious to see what a PS5 slim would look like.



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