Tober said:
"Significant death and disease? Really?? OK The USA does know a lot about causing death and disease all over the world LoL." This was a tongue in cheek comment about the US favourite pastime: Bombing other countries. If the USA would reign that in, it would do more good than any foreign aid program.
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So because America has done horrible shit in the past it is fine to screw everyone? It's a fact that not only does USAID benefit Americans domestically, such as American farmers, it also benefits people across the globe, from disaster relief to curbing the spread of deadly diseases, said deadly diseases which would spread to America if left unchecked. I don't believe that because America has been shitty in other regards, that means they should just say fuck it and aim for even worse.
It reminds me of the "Burn It All Down" logic which is often stated by privileged straight white males who wouldn't feel the impact of burning everything down anyway. Yes we should advocate for USA to reign in destabilising foreign policy and we should also advocate for positive foreign policy, just because we aren't happy with one doesn't mean we should throw away the other.
Tober said:
A good example though where all of a sudden his word is taken seriously is when in his first term he claimed he would leave NATO. This caused quite the ruckus. He'd obviously never do it, because NATO is a big customer for US military equipment, but since he was painted as "a Madman that is capable of anything", it was taken seriously and several countries upped their defense budget.
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Trump can't actually leave NATO without two-thirds of Senate voting in favour, so basically impossible.
America being in NATO is mostly irrelevant to why they're a big supplier of military equipment and it's more so because America simply spends a shit load more into their military than any other country so have both the quality and quantity to supply, even if America wasn't in NATO you would see countries buying billions from America, just like countries not in NATO do.
Countries upped their defence budgets because of Russia, not Trump's rambling, in 2021 only 6 NATO countries were hitting the 2% target, as of 2024 now 23 meet the 2% target. That is obviously due to Russia's invasion. The 2% target was never a hard rule either way and only a vague commitment, now Trump wants to make it 5% despite America not even hitting 4%. Poland is the #1 now for GDP %.
He talks a load of shit about NATO. He seems to believe that Europe is somehow scamming America despite Europe already spending billions on American equipment. He does this because it's the classic right wing tactic of creating an imaginary enemy, he wanted to rile up the nationalists and turn them against Europe, create an enemy out of nothing, try to get them mad at us for apparently "ripping off America" because right wingers like Trump always need an enemy to direct his cult towards, it is how they get into power and it is how they distract people from the real issue, which is billionaires like Trump and his friends bleeding dry the country and taking away from the average person.
He is employing same tactics on Canada and Mexico now. Asia will be next.
Tober said:
We see something similar now. He claims to shut down USAID. Everyone takes his word for it, but if you notice the pattern, then he always claims big to get something moving and in the end something else happens. USAID as with every other foreign aid program of any country (including my own), is a great vehicle to bribe other foreign officials. Trump knows that and won't give that up. At most he will fold it in the the Department of State.
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What by Trump's recent actions makes you believe that he cares about allies? His entire agenda is nationalism and isolationism.
Tober said:
Yet he is voted in by the majority of Americans.
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Majority of the voters, not the majority of Americans.
For all voters he received 49.80% so 50.20% went to Harris/Other.
Tober said:
Russian Propaganda? I don't know. But than again a lot was claimed Russian propaganda over the years. Hunter's laptop? It just seems these are words uttered easily like 'Dictator', 'Threat to Democracy'. Words that are thrown around so many times, they start to loose meaning.
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It's straight up a fake video made to discredit Zelenskyy, who do you think has interest in doing that? Lmao. It was either Russia or some kid in his basement. Logic dictates that Russia made it and therefore it is Russian propaganda. Prigozhin before his death also straight up confirmed to attempts to interfere in American elections, Russian propaganda is a very real thing.
Dictator and Threat to Democracy apply to Trump, yes. Although we hope that America will put a stop to his attempts.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 10 February 2025