the-pi-guy said:
Well yeah, USAID funds programs preventing TB for example. It's a little harder to say what the future holds with the CDC and FDA.
I feel like I want to make 3 very different responses here. - This isn't how any of this conversation works. I don't assume Trump is lying. We tell he's lying or not by the facts. No one has even been talking about any Trump claims in this conversation. So what are you even talking about? - That's also fundamentally how lying works. You usually try to make yourself look better than you are, and if you're still coming up short, then the real truth must be pretty dire. - I haven't really seen Trump claim much of anything. Aside from genociding Palestine. A lot more focus has been on Musk.
Being disagreed with, is an important part of "open discussion". In fact, it's a pretty critical part of being able to openly discuss things - it's what happens when you have conversations outside of an echo chamber; you end up talking with people who have disagreements.
Oh, I'd be happy if I saw him do some things right. Musk finding cherry picked expenditures that he doesn't agree with, isn't an audit. >On Wednesday, Musk shared a faked video claiming USAID had sponsored celebrity visits to Ukraine. Darren Linvill, a co-director of Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub, told NBC News the video was manufactured Russian propaganda. Especially when he's actually even lying about things to justify his actions. |
I'm not as good as you clipping parts of the discussion in a way to make it more readable, so apologies for that in advance.
"Significant death and disease? Really?? OK The USA does know a lot about causing death and disease all over the world LoL." This was a tongue in cheek comment about the US favorite pastime: Bombing other countries. If the USA would reign that in, it would do more good than any foreign aid program.
I believe the stance of trumps political adversaries has always been he's the 'Liar in Chief', it's been over the campaign and beyond for years. A good example though where all of a sudden his word is taken seriously is when in his first term he claimed he would leave NATO. This caused quite the ruckus. He'd obviously never do it, because NATO is a big customer for US military equipment, but since he was painted as "a Madman that is capable of anything", it was taken seriously and several countries upped their defense budget.
We see something similar now. He claims to shut down USAID. Everyone takes his word for it, but if you notice the pattern, then he always claims big to get something moving and in the end something else happens. USAID as with every other foreign aid program of any country (including my own), is a great vehicle to bribe other foreign officials. Trump knows that and won't give that up. At most he will fold it in the the Department of State.
Bubbles are real. That is no insult. We are part of a bubble called "Gamers who like statistics". That's why we are on this site. Overall I cannot leave the impression that most contributors to this Political forum would rather walk through glass shards barefooted than mention anything they agree with Trump on. Or Republicans in general. Yet he is voted in by the majority of Americans. I can only assume not many of those are "Gamers who like statistics". Perhaps my impression is wrong. Could be.
Russian Propaganda? I don't know. But than again a lot was claimed Russian propaganda over the years. Hunter's laptop? It just seems these are words uttered easily like 'Dictator', 'Threat to Democracy'. Words that are thrown around so many times, they start to loose meaning.
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