Due to the tone policing and general complaints on the style rather than substance of the OP, I stripped the OP down to mostly just a basic set of rules, that way everyone is absolutely clear on the matter and we can focus on said rules. The original OP will be kept at the bottom of this reply for posterity.
But make no mistake. I stand by what I said. There's a good reason why it was felt necessary to establish some ground rules. We have always had clear-cut rules regarding bigotry. However, the commentary I mentioned made it clear that those rules were being overlooked. Because of the intense controversy over this game specifically and because of questionable posts made about it in the days after release, we debated on how to handle the subject (something we probably should have done well before release) and decided an OP specifically addressing this game was needed.
It is a simple matter of fact of the matter that J.K. Rowling is a transphobe. There is no way to weasel around that. She has on many, many occasions been overt about it. The people she surrounds herself with in the so-called "gender critical" movement are just as bad, sometimes even worse, as detailed by this video. This wasn't some one-off thing or "Oh, I didn't mean to like that tweet. It was an accident, I swear!" There was no "oops." Transphobia is an integral part of her worldview. If you need examples, there's this post on Reddit, as well as this list of stuff I cribbed from elsewhere:
J.K. Rowling is someone who:
- Helps drive trans children toward self harm and suicide.
- Openly supports and champions people who call for the genocide of trans people.
- States that trans people at large shouldn't have a blanket presumption of innocence around not being sex offenders.
- Vilified a charity for vulnerable children so much they had to close and restrict their services, and withdraw staff over fears for their safety.
- Doesn't believe trans people are natural, and instead that it is a mental illness.
- Supported and praised the anti-trans propaganda video of a self-confessed fascist, who believes we are one of the greatest evils in human history.
- Calls the movement for trans rights an 'authoritarian, misogynistic and homophobic movement'.
- Denies trans people are a minority, plays up trans women as sex offenders and pushes conspiracy theories.
- Drives key support for Allison Bailey and the LGB Alliance – a far-right hate group who are directly working to erode the rights of trans people.
- Sends love to allies of hers responsible for doxxing trans women.
- Helped reduce the ILGA score of the UK by being a prime motivator in increased hostility towards trans people.
- Acts as, and is seen as, the primary figurehead of the anti-trans movement in the UK, one that has seen sentiment toward us erode dramatically since 2020.
- Related transition to being a new form of gay conversion therapy, one that should be further restricted.
- Regularly platforms and boosts lobbying groups and individuals who are working to remove rights of trans people in the UK.
- Led a revolt that saw the most basic reform for Gender Recognition in the UK scrapped, despite a 70% approval rating.
- Openly supports people who are anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage and would prefer AIDS to charities that support trans women and children.
- Added to a pressure that resulted in links to support systems for vulnerable trans children being removed by the BBC.
- Pushed for a move that saw young trans people face further hardships in accessing trans-affirming healthcare.
- Has been cited by foreign politicians in their own bids to restrict trans rights, healthcare access and freedoms.
It is inarguable at this point that Rowling is actively and demonstrably destructive to trans lives, especially that of children and those in the UK. The wave of transphobia she ignited and continues to drive has led to legislation being scrapped, rights being removed, career paths denied, children's charities closing services, proposed bans on torture reversed and hate crimes against trans people reaching record highs. That is all to say that this is having not just a real impact, but a significant one. Life for trans people in the UK grows more uncertain as a direct consequence of the above, and it's not about to stop. |
It is also a simple fact of the matter that the boycott of Hogwart's Legacy stems from objections over Rowling's transphobia. Dismissal of or insults towards the concerns of those boycotting the game is dismissal of or insults to concerns over transphobia. There's no other way to interpret comments that are in the vein of "LOL! Get owned, snowflakes!" or "People boycotting this game are psychopaths." It is not "psychopathic" or "oversensitive" to object to the things Rowling has said about trans people.
This is a very personal issue for me. I have a trans relative. Does that make me biased? Yeah. I'm biased in favor of basic human rights and the idea that we shouldn't treat people like shit over things they can't help. This isn't just some abstract debate over the rights of people we'll never meet. This is literally real life and death stuff. Society is inundated with non-stop propaganda from TERFs, right-wing "news" media, and entire political parties who have ramped up aggressively vile rhetoric about trans people. They, and queer people in general, have been absolutely demonized, accused, without a shred of evidence, of being perverts, predators, pedophiles, or otherwise some existential threat to society. Between the incessant fearmongering that "They're coming for your wives, daughters, and children!", and the constant attempts to create and enforce laws that make life hell for trans people. And the fruits of that labor of hate perpetrated by transphobes has resulted in trans people being abused, ostracized, and even murdered. Trans people are four times more likely than cis people to be victims of violence. Hate crimes against trans people are on the rise. It's the same bullshit that was leveled at gay people not so long ago. Homophobia and a culture that normalized mistreatment of gays is what got Matthew Shepard, among countless others, murdered in cold blood. Now trans people are the folk devil du jour in reactionary circles. And it's all because some people absolutely refuse to exist in the same society with not just trans people, but the larger LGBTQ+ community. Reactionaries of all stripes want the clock rolled back to where it was before Stonewall, queer people being forced back into the closet at (maybe not entirely metaphorical) gunpoint, if not worse. All based on age-old prejudices that have no real justification for existing. People with irrational hatred and fear of "the other" can always find some post-hoc rationale to attempt to justify and legitimize said hatred and fear.
So, that's where I stand on the issue.
The rules are what they are. Bigotry has always been a bannable offense here. Don't think you can be slick or sly and think some oblique comments mocking the boycott without being overtly, explicitly bigoted or dismissive of concerns over bigotry will allow you to avoid potential moderation. If you can't be bothered to adhere to those rules, then stay out of discussions where you might feel the impulse to make comments that could be subject to moderation. We already have enough on our table with other stuff. It's bad enough we're constantly having to deal with users who engage in verbal fisticuffs over expensive electronic toys or sci-fi movie franchises. We don't want bigoted comments to deal with on top of that.
Any further commentary regarding trans rights and/or how they pertain to this game, gaming in general, or other media is currently an off-limits subject pending further review by the mod staff. Do not move discussion of the subject to the Politics board.
We will probably leave this sticky up for the next several days in case anyone hasn't seen it yet, then it will be locked. The rules will still apply after that.
ORIGINAL OP:
Shadow1980 said:
Hogwart's Legacy is a title that has seen a lot of controversy, but it was also a commercial success. As a result of this success, some people are trying to downplay the controversy. However, all of you know precisely why there was a controversy over this game: J.K. Rowling, the creator of Harry Potter, is a virulent transphobe. She continues to profit off of the continued success of her IP, which gives her a platform to continue espousing her toxic views. Transphobic rhetoric and policies cause real, demonstrable harm to human beings whose only "crime" is existing. People like Rowling clearly have no interest in treating trans people with dignity or respect, and want to go out of their way to make things as difficult as possible for trans people, including limiting their rights and diminishing their quality of life. Some of the worst anti-trans rhetoric we see from TERFs and the far-right are borderline eliminationist. Needless to say, insulting people who disapproved of this game (either here, elsewhere, or in the abstract) over the IP creator's transphobia cannot be interpreted as anything less than tacit approval of her transphobia and dismissal of concerns over transphobia. We have already seen several snide, dismissive comments in multiple threads like "so much for the controversy" and "love to see the outrage," or calling supporters of the boycott "psychopaths." You know why people are mad. We all know why people are mad. The people who are boycotting this game and the larger franchise have valid concerns. Do not be obtuse about it. Transphobia. Is. Bigotry. Period. The mod team have decided amongst ourselves that we will not outright ban discussion of the game. It's a popular game from a popular IP. If people want to discuss the game or even the controversy around it in neutral terms, that is allowed. If you want to buy the game or you state that you enjoy the game, that will not be held against you. However, certain specific commentary regarding it is off limits. Transphobia of any kind, no matter how obliquely stated or espoused, will not be tolerated. Any further mention of the controversy that has a dismissive or insulting tone towards those who disapprove of J.K. Rowling and the Harry Potter/Wizarding World IP over her transphobia (emphasis added to make the specifics clear) will be met with appropriate moderation. As with other forms of bigotry, there is a zero-tolerance policy in place regarding transphobia. First offense is a one-week ban. Next is two weeks. Third is 30 days. After that, it's a permanent ban. This post is the only warning you will receive. Also, no more mention of how other sites' rules regarding discussion of the game. We're not going to have any inter-site drama here.
(Edited again for even further clarification; See also Ryuu96's posts) |