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I'm waiting till something official happens before properly reacting to it, but in the meantime, I'm glad this feature is getting added. I figured it would come in sooner or later, but not quite this quickly lol



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Ryuu96 said:

You do, because CoD only releases once a year. These studios were acquired precisely because of Game Pass, it keeps people engaged all year round. The issue is typical American capitalism bullshit, they need the line to go up faster, only bigger games can do that, without Game Pass they never would have acquired these studios in the first place and they'd probably have shut down everything already aside from the mega hits. But it's clear now that Game Pass original purpose can no longer save these studios/games because it "only" reached ~40m (so far) instead of some ridiculous number like 100m-200m but even if it reached that we'd eventually come to a point where Microsoft would say "Hmm. We have 100m subs now. Bringing in massive amount of money...Buuuuuut....THE LINE ISN'T INCREASING FAST ENOUGH. WE NEED MORE" and we'd be back to square one with mass layoffs and cancellations. Why? American Capitalism, Lol. 

Just to look at that number. If we assume 100$ per year per subscription (should be about right on average or maybe higher), that are 4B$ per year. If we assume an AAA game costs about 500M, they can finance the release of 5 AAA games *each year* for 2.5B and still have 1.5B for like 10 AA games. This is completely ignoring that the games also have sales outside the Gamepass. So yeah, 40M subscribers is actually an absolutely sustainable number for such a service. As long as your core interest is games development. But as you say, cloud and stuff makes MS more money, so why should they care for the peanuts here.



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VersusEvil said:

Unfortunately that’s the reality of ABK buying Xbox and going all in on a sub service. I mean when you have COD in Game Pass releasing yearly you don’t really need the Compulsions and the Ninja Theory’s or the Double Fines when their games likely don’t bring in any subs (compared to ABK) and the top boss is probably looking at that and wondering why they even need most of those studios. You either move the sub count up or you’re out.

I think you do to keep things fresh. Imagine if Netflix only had You and Squid Games people would only sub around the time they drop new seasons. Yes gaming is different because it consumes more time and the live service model but there still needs for new content. And theres always the random breakout IP like Grounded that moves the needle. 



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jason1637 said:
VersusEvil said:

Unfortunately that’s the reality of ABK buying Xbox and going all in on a sub service. I mean when you have COD in Game Pass releasing yearly you don’t really need the Compulsions and the Ninja Theory’s or the Double Fines when their games likely don’t bring in any subs (compared to ABK) and the top boss is probably looking at that and wondering why they even need most of those studios. You either move the sub count up or you’re out.

I think you do to keep things fresh. Imagine if Netflix only had You and Squid Games people would only sub around the time they drop new seasons. Yes gaming is different because it consumes more time and the live service model but there still needs for new content. And theres always the random breakout IP like Grounded that moves the needle. 

We know this, but do the managers? I doubt many people in the C-Suit in these big companies do play games. For movie execs it might be they maybe watch one or two movies a year, which at least gives them *some* insight in what they are selling. But upper management at MS probably don't play. The Xbox people do, but how much are they under pressure by Nadella and people on their level?



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Mnementh said:
jason1637 said:

I think you do to keep things fresh. Imagine if Netflix only had You and Squid Games people would only sub around the time they drop new seasons. Yes gaming is different because it consumes more time and the live service model but there still needs for new content. And theres always the random breakout IP like Grounded that moves the needle. 

We know this, but do the managers? I doubt many people in the C-Suit in these big companies do play games. For movie execs it might be they maybe watch one or two movies a year, which at least gives them *some* insight in what they are selling. But upper management at MS probably don't play. The Xbox people do, but how much are they under pressure by Nadella and people on their level?

They obviously don't, Microsoft executives have zero clue about the entertainment or consumer market and they never will, the company is so fixated on business it will never be able to understand, Satya is drooling at the thought of replacing all Xbox employees with AI. All American corps are cutting back on employees though, treating them horrendously and focusing on big IP only. It doesn't excuse any of them though, because they're only doing it so line goes up faster than fast. It's simply pure and utter greed, toxic American capitalism.

We are profitable and sustainable, we are growing too, but IT'S NOT ENOUGH! FUCK YOU ALL! - American Capitalism.

Microsoft doesn't understand the damage it will do with all these layoffs or closures and the destruction of employee morale, but Microsoft likely doesn't care, because they're going to replace them all with underpaid, overworked outsourced companies, and whatever is left they're going to try to replace with AI. Microsoft does not and never will understand the importance of art and creativity.

Really wish Xbox could somehow spinoff from Microsoft as an independent company but unfortunately I think that would cause even more problems because while Xbox is profitable, I doubt it would be profitable enough to make big moves as an independent business. We do know they were making low single digit profits in the billions pre-ABK though and ABK itself was making profits in the mid-high single digits.

I would make a guess that Xbox's profit margins right now are high single digits - low double digits so about 7-13% but I've been seeing that Microsoft apparently demands a 30% profit margin at minimum of most of their businesses which will mean layoffs basically every single year and cut backs everywhere until they reach that.



And AI is still trash, sick of seeing Google's AI on all my search which often gets shit wrong, Lol.

I can't wait for this bubble to "burst" and when I say burst, I don't mean it's going to collapse into nothing, it will still play a big role in society (unfortunately) and replace many jobs (unfortunately) but people like Microsoft and OpenAI are MASSIVELY overhyping, it's like promising a cure for all diseases but you only end up curing 20, that is when the bubble will burst.

Microsoft talks about AI like it's going to change the world, cure all cancer, cure all diseases, remove world hunger, take us to stars, etc. It's just another overhyped piece of tech to drive up stock like when they tried to use Metaverse for the same thing, except AI is actually going to have a large impact, but just not one as big as Microsoft/OpenAI claim.

But unfortunately when it doesn't turn out to be the most world changing thing ever, Microsoft will take it out on all their other divisions. Satya is really turning into one of my most disliked CEOs of Microsoft. He is absolutely sucking all creativity out of Microsoft and I think when Xbox's old guard goes, he is going to dive right into MS Gaming to try to replace as many people as possible with some shit AI.

Microsoft Internal Memo: 'Using AI Is No Longer Optional.' - Business Insider

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Should replace Microsoft's leadership with AI if it is so brilliant.



Ryuu96 said:

And AI is still trash, sick of seeing Google's AI on all my search which often gets shit wrong, Lol.

That’s by design, it’s all an attempt at making the voting public as dumb as humanly posssible so they vote Trump or in our case Reform. Also FYI if you leave a space and type -ai it’ll remove the AI answer. 



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