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Ryuu96 said:
shikamaru317 said:

Honestly that one wouldn't be so bad as long as they traded back and forth. Bethesda would be freed up from Fallout to focus on Elder Scrolls and Starfield games, meanwhile Obsidian could trade Fallout back and forth between them, while one is working on a Fallout game, the other could work on one of their own IP like Wasteland or a Clockwork sequel for inXile, or Outer Worlds or Avowed sequels for Obsidian. Would only turn bad if they were forced into Fallout development only.

Obsidian is a studio with like 5 creative leads and constantly working on multiple projects at once, I think turning them into a Fallout only studio will absolutely be bad for them creatively, likely lead to creative clashes and people leaving, what do the directors of The Outer Worlds, Avowed, Grounded do when the entire studio is put onto Fallout? That's pretty much a demotion to them.

It might be fine for InXile since they seemingly only have one team but still who knows if InXile even wants to work on Fallout. Josh Sawyer and Feargus are down for Fallout but I don't think they'd like to do it at the expense of everything else, at the expense of putting a bullet in Grounded, The Outer Worlds, Avowed/Pillars of Eternity.

Honestly their directors were getting sidelined alot even without Xbox involvement, Chris Parker hasn't directed a game that actually released at Obsidian since 2014's South Park, after that he seemed to be largely on the sidelines at Obsdian until Avowed began development in 2018, but then development got rebooted on Avowed in 2021 as I recall, with Carrie Pattel taking over as director of Avowed, so I guess Chris Parker is back on the sidelines again. Who knows what Josh has been doing since Pentiment released, I guess he is probably sidelined as well right now, at least until enough of the studio is available for Xbox to put him in charge of a Fallout game. Obsdian is a studio with too many directors and not enough development teams at present.

I'm not saying they should go Fallout only, but having Obsidian and inXile trade or Obsidian and Bethesda trade (or even trading Fallout between all 3) probably isn't a bad idea to allow for quicker Fallout releases while still allowing Obsdian and inXile to work on their own games sometimes. 



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I voted hybrid model because I'm struggling to think of how timed or long-term exclusives trapped on Xbox Series X/S helps players. Most people aren't going to buy 3 platforms, and some probably won't even buy 2.



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Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 48 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Leynos said:

Empire of Dirt.

You reminded me of Johnny Cash with that.

"What have I become, my sweetest friend. Everyone I know goes away in the end. And you could have it all, my empire of dirt. I will let you down, I will make you hurt."



Tango get shutterd coz of commercial flops then WTF they gonna do to my Arkane? I swear if Lyon gets shuttered and I never get a Dishonoured 3 … and this pretty much guarantees everything going multi platform.



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I'd rather every single game goes fully multiplatform than shutting down studios but even that didn't save Tango but it might save others, it's clear that Game Pass is not a safety blanket and every studio needs to be profitable, the best chance of that is full multiplatform, Microsoft has gone into cutthroat mode and look at P/L on an individual studio basis which makes no sense because how do you calculate that with Game Pass?

So many studios will die on an exclusive approach with this new Microsoft. They're basically in a position now of killing hardware sales or killing studios and making hundreds of people jobless and at the end of the day, the developers who make our games, the human beings, are a lot more important than a piece of plastic.

I think Phil & Co are just puppets at this stage doing whatever the fuck MS tells them to, but have some damn respect for yourselves, try to keep your dignity at least, if I was in their position I would tell Microsoft to piss off, what they're doing is wrong and quit the damn company, I wouldn't have my reputation tarnished because Microsoft wants to be greedy, it's not worth it.



Roundhouse being merged into Zenimax is fine, in fact, I'd argue it's a good thing.

Alpha Dog could have been cross-merged into King, they had like fucking 10-20 employees.

Arkane Austin should have been merged into Arkane Lyon to assist on Blade, recuperate after Redfall and try splitting off again after Blade.

Tango should have never been shutdown, it was likely an incredibly cheap studio to upkeep as well.



Someone made a comment that every publisher is going to be EA at the end of this decade and it's probably true. 💀



the-pi-guy said:

The industry as a whole is undergoing some struggles. The growth has stopped.

Exclusivity is being rethought.
Sony is increasingly putting their games on PC. MS has put a number of games on PS and Switch.

The AAA space is being rethought.
Making increasingly expensive games seems to be reaching it's limit. Games can't afford to be GTA VI.
Studios are being closed. Studios are cutting staff. Not every game can afford to have a $200 million budget, let alone $300 million or whatever the future might have looked like if trends continued.


Personally I firmly believe that a lot of these issues are self inflicted. Can't expect growth to continue forever. And I believe that a lot of this expense growth was poorly spent.

The Console space is stagnant, and the PC space is thriving.  A/AA mid-tier games are seeing great sales on PC while those games seem to just barely do anything on current consoles.  The thing is the young people just are not interested in those expensive consoles with their expensive games and they are losing out to mobile.  There is going to be a reshuffle as the older gamers die out and the new gamers dictate what is successful and what is not.  Either you see the shift and make the changes ahead of time or you try to ride the wave and hope its only a short adventure and everything goes back to normal.  I personally believe there is going to be a huge shift in gaming period.  In my mind this move really doesn't mean anything from MS outside of that they know they need to make changes but we have not seen the full picture yet so not sure how things are going to turn out.