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Marvel is in a downward spiral right now with their woke bullshit, so no. Not a good idea. They will shit the bed with everything they touch. Maybe wait a couple of years when things have turned around a bit. Marvel back in their phase three would have been awesome for DC characters as well, they seemed to be firing on all cylinders.



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CaptainExplosion said:
SuaveSocialist said:

If they were made to feel like GOOD movies, that would be a nice start.

 And that could happen WITHOUT DC being owned by Disney. 

That sentiment is as true today as it was for the last nine years.



Isn't WB cutting corners everywhere due to financial concerns? If the DCEU has burnt itself out, and its last remaining stars are not precisely saints in the eyes of the public, the best thing is to let it rest for a while. Major spending in something like this with the economy wobbling is not wise. Especially if they don't have the talent to make it work.
Hell, didn't they basically give the CW away for free because of its massive losses? Selling DC should be the last resort, though, the IPs still have enough weight, they will eventually recover.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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DC doesn't need an 'universe'. Just let the comics and their adaptations stand on their own and crossover whenever seems fitting. Other than that, Disney doesn't need to own every media franchise.



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Sounds like you take throw-away comments way too seriously.
Anyway, Disney aside, DC needs someone - be it a person or a corporation - to set things in order and properly plan the DCEU as a whole, right now it just doesnt seem like they know what they are doing.



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Ryuu96 said:

Kevin Smith was just making a joke anyway. Disney+ isn't even rumoured to be in the running, it's Apple TV+, Netflix and Hulu. Hulu is co-owned between Disney and Comcast and isn't Disney+ If it ends up on Hulu then it's really not a big deal Imo...Current ownership is making me less interested in HBO Max though...Apple will probably get it anyway if they want it enough, they'll easily outbid the others.

Disney/Comcast likely won't own anything except the streaming rights, the same way that The Sandman is a DC IP which they own in its entirety but they passed on having it on HBO Max and it instead went to Netflix, if Netflix cancels the show then Gaiman can then shop it around elsewhere because Netflix doesn't own it and I believe DC/Warner Bros are still involved in production.

It's the new leaderships fault, Zaslav is cutting a bunch of corners in an effort to save some quick cash as Warner Bros Discovery is in a lot of debt, they've been cancelling films/TV Shows for tax write offs and removing content that they own from their own service so they don't have to pay residuals, it also represents a change in focus, animation is hit hardest because Zaslav wants to focus elsewhere.

That’s my big problem with Netflix, they cancel most of what they start. While Apple has a relatively small content volume compared to Netflix, it’s all either complete or in progress. The issue with Netflix is the large volume of incomplete/will never be completed shows. There are a handful of shows that are safe: The Witcher, Bridgerton, Squid Game, and Stranger Things. With Apple, it’s more or less every show that’s safe: and they all seem to have insanely high budgets—where Netflix feels a bit hit and miss (although some, like Bridgerton are oozing with gold infusion, but if Marco Polo proved anything—those high budget ones tend to be in constant danger of cancellation). I’m unfamiliar with Hulu, I’ve heard of its existence and that’s about it—so, I can’t comment. Disney seems decent as well with content, although I watch it for the stuff it got from Fox and haven’t paid close attention to its Disney cartoon or super hero stuff (except X-Men, I love most of the X-Men stuff, even the stuff people hate… maybe particularly the stuff people hate, I loved First Class, the Wolverine films, and the Dark Phoenix film; and I think most of us can agree on the Deadpools…The more popular films - Days, Apolcalypse, and the original trilogy - didn’t resonate with me like they did most people, I like them, but don’t love them like the other films).

Apple Plus acquiring DC distribution rights would be ideal… although, I think Amazon Prime has basically the one Super Hero TV show I’ve liked, so far, with The Boys… But what I like about Apple Plus, is they delve more into the grittier and more dramatic content as well.

My favourite show on that platform is an alternate history drama with some science fiction elements called For All Mankind. It’s fairly gritty, created by the Battlestar Galactica remake creator, Ronald D. Moore. This show is bursting with high budget production, and they do a very good job stylizing everything to the correct decade. Apple Plus’s special features have a lot of old-school Director’s Cut/Extended Edition DVD-like features all the special features. Each season (except 1) is a snapshot or a few snapshots into new decade (season 1 is the 1960s and 70s). As the show progresses, little documentaries and news casts unlock in the special features that detail some of the major alternate history events; they’re dressed up to be like the era they’re set in… What happened with the Challenger? What about the Soviet standoff? How about John Lennon? Everything has film-level budgeting; and the soundtrack is absurdly good featuring popular music from across the decades (kind of like what Goodfellas did). I think Apple has some sort of deal with Sony since all their shows seem to feature Sony music artists heavily (at least from what I’ve seen). One episode of For All Mankind features the song Well Well Well by John Lennon and Come as You Are by Nirvana as the scene drifts into the 1990s. (Sorry, I know I got WAY off topic, I just love talking about For All Mankind).

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