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Forums - Sony Discussion - Playstation being American-ised is bad for the market, I think

Can't help but disagree. This gen so far after this so called "Americanisation" we've been given:

1) Astro's Playroom - plays like an old skool platformer from the N64 era. As Japanese as it can get.

2) Little Big Adventure - as above.

3) Returnal - classic old skool Shmup but brought masterfully to present day presentation and gameplay. Has huge nods to the likes of Retype and Gradius and similar Japanese games.

4) Sifu - old skool beat em up like SoR, DD etc with an old skool Chinese martials arts story and presentation.

5) FF16 - JRPG

6) Ghostwrire Tokyo - Japanese Ghostbusting horror action.

7) GT7

8) Stray - cats, puzzle platforming, small quirky gameplay elements like scratching sofa's, carpets, knocking shit over and a dedicated "meow" button. The game is as unAmerican as it can get.

9) Kena - plays like a next gen Zelda.

The you have the cross Gen games like:

1) Takes of Arise
2) GoT directors cut
3) lost judgement
4) like a dragon
5) FF7R & Intergrade
6) DMC 5
7) Scarlet Nexus

And then list of hardcore JRPGs

Furthermore we are still getting:

1) Forspoken
2) FF7 part 2
3) New Ys
4) RE8 VR

Plenty of unAmericanised games and I would argue Sony is probably the biggest at this. Most of the big Sony games like Horizon, GOW, LBP, R&C, Returnal, GOT etc have no MTs, Loot boxes, gamepasses.

The games either support DLC or have free expansions / content.

GT7 which probably has the most Americanised MTs still releases free content every month and will for the life time duration of the game.



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zero129 said:
Kakadu18 said:

No they don't. You can transfer all your games easily from one Switch to another.

He is on about the wii not Switch, and it took nintendo long enough to get there but are your games going to work on the Switch 2?, cant blame someone for not trusting Nintendo when it comes to digital.

By my own policy I don't trust digital in any platform, but yes Steam is like 100000000000% more reliable than Nintendo on this front.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

theyve been doing fine for now, the american market and european market will support them



zero129 said:

Look guys, Sonys are now an aemrican company, we have such great games as Final Fantasy launching excluisvely on sony such a western game. we have tales of games launching on Sony we have so many other JRPG's like persona launching on the sonys, man i hate this amarican sony where are my Japan games? xD

I'm talking mostly about first party games. 

most of these games you mentioned are on steam or coming to steam



the-pi-guy said:
PullusPardus said:

I'm talking mostly about first party games. 

most of these games you mentioned are on steam or coming to steam

So does God of War, Uncharted, Spiderman, Horizon not count? Because those are coming out on Steam. 

Sony is releasing their first party games on Steam. 

Playstation have no games, all over again =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

I will say SONY themselves are just so boring, generic, and kind of predictable. Think about it guys; when SONY has a State of Play, are we really there to see SONY developed games or what Japanese 3rd party game they secured?

EDIT: I think we are missing point here guys. He is not saying that Japanese games are not on PS, but by becoming so westernized is SONY letting the grip on Japanese 3rd parties dwindle? I think the answer yes. Most of the Japanese 3rd party titles that have been associated with PS have spread there wings. A big leverage for SONY is that they created a eco system that kept 3rd parties away from Nintendo, now that Nintendo is getting those games plus their own? Nintendo will smash SONY.

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Xxain said:

I will say SONY themselves are just so boring, generic, and kind of predictable. Think about it guys; when SONY has a State of Play, are we really there to see SONY developed games or what Japanese 3rd party game they secured?

Both. 



Hiku said:
PullusPardus said:

its already pushing japanese devs away to go to Nintendo,

I'm guessing you're talking about a handful of games that were censored for various reasons?  Though I'm not sure I recall that resulted in anyone moving away from Sony? At least not anything that seemed significant.

Generally speaking, a lot of Japanese franchises have grown exponentially after breaking through in the west, to the point where they sell more overseas than they did in Japan.
Even very Japanese-style titles like Persona 5, Yakuza 0 and Nier: Automata.

I don't really understand why you're saying "Sony won't survive with just their exclusives". Not only because of the insinuation that they're porting things to Steam because they're in some sort of trouble, when they began doing that at the height of PS4's success.
But because Playstation has always mainly been about it's third party library. If you don't like the first party offering, that's no problem. You can play Resident Evil, Tekken, Final Fantasy, or whatever floats your boat.

If a high profile Japanese title gets an announcement trailer, we always expect the Playstation logo to appear at the end (unless someone bought the exclusivity) because it always has.

Quick point tho. A lot of smaller Japanese games or esp 90s arcade ports. A chunk of them have only come to Switch as someone who imports a lot.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Xxain said:

when SONY has a State of Play, are we really there to see SONY developed games or what Japanese 3rd party game they secured?

All these + the western third parties. Sony has consistently the best (in volume, quality and diversity) lineup of games on their consoles for about 25 years now. This is not up to discussion, no Playstation console has ever sold less than 80 million copies (and PS3 was only 2 and half million copies away from 90 million) and they are likely not going to sell less than that with PS5 either

The rest of your essay of Nintendo smashing Sony. Nintendo having the monopoly of the handheld market is the reason behind their dominance, not Playstation third parties getting released on other platforms. Currently, the options for handhelds are the almost impossible-to-find Steam Deck and... a Switch. Be aware, Switch was likely to sell a lot even if it was a stationary console, but the reason why it's going to be the best selling console of all time is that Switch combines the two market: Stationary and portable. 

Otherwise, I doubt Nintendo could truly overcome Sony's dominance in the stationary console market. Be a good rival like Xbox, yes, but "smashing" Sony? Nah