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Forums - Sales - Famitsu sales: Week 16, 2022 - (11th Apr - 17th Apr)

Kneetos said:

Can we get a chart that shows ps3, vs ps4, vs ps5 in japan
I feel that if we can see how all 3 are comparing to each other we can get a better guesstimate of the ps5's projections rather then just arguing with each other about what and what isn't reliable data

If I recall correctly the ps4 is at the low 9 millions while the ps3 is around 10.5 million, and we all know how slow the ps3 started off



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Looks like the ps3 wasn't as slow as I remember it, at least in japan, thanks for the graphs.
To me it looks like an upswing is possible for the ps5, I would be shocked if it sold less then the WiiU and vita

If and when Sony get more systems to Japan I can see it doing better, games like kingdom hearts 4, dragon quest, ys, trials of cold steel, tales of, monster hunter, resi evil and ff16 as well as ff7 remake will all be on playstation, and unless those games somehow show up and a potential switch 2 (not impossible), those are the games that will help push sales for sony's system.

Big 3rd party japanese devs like capcom, sega, square enix will all make games for the ps5, some might end up being console exclusive if they can't run on nintendo's systems.

All this arguing is a little silly, I want the ps5 to do well because it's a fun system with the potential for great games, just like the switch.



GProgrammer said:

Wait I don't understand
Some people are trying to say there is not much demand for the PS5 in Japan because it doesn't sell many each week, even though every single PS5 that gets shipped there is instantly sold out.

With this lack of intelligence, one has to wonder how that manage to cross the street without getting hit by a bus

The original insinuation was that the PS5 could sell 200k each week for some time without supply issues, I disagreed and it devolved from there.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
GProgrammer said:

Wait I don't understand
Some people are trying to say there is not much demand for the PS5 in Japan because it doesn't sell many each week, even though every single PS5 that gets shipped there is instantly sold out.

With this lack of intelligence, one has to wonder how that manage to cross the street without getting hit by a bus

The original insinuation was that the PS5 could sell 200k each week for some time without supply issues, I disagreed and it devolved from there.

Didn't say each week. I said if they were to ship 200k or 300k for next week it would sell out. Which is one week. Switch couldn't possibly sell 200k unless it's the holidays or a major release like pokemon, animal crossing, Mario kart monster hunter. It's why I said ps5 could outsell switch for a month or 2 if there's no shortages. 



Kakadu18 said:

So PS5 is on par with PS4 and below Wii U and PS3. Interesting. Thanks!



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eddy7eddy said:

An important point that has not been mentioned here is the scarcity principle:
"The rarer or more difficult it is to obtain a product, offer, or piece of content is, the more valuable it becomes. Because we think the product will soon be unavailable to us, we're more likely to buy it than if there were no impression of scarcity"

Or what do you think? I'm not saying this is the absolute truth, but can help to give an idea about how if PS5 & XSX would be avaiable for everyone and everyone knew they are avaiable for everyone, a lot of people that would get one today, wouldn't buy it until another factor happens (Like a New Game).

This principle is valid when the product it is complete. The goal of video games it´s not buy the videogame, but play games. The Japanese market it´s one of the most physical markets today, so the final product it´s not the videogame, it´s the game. The scarcity´s not the games ( PS5 doesn´t have great software sales when you compared with other games with the same sales). So your premise only works when the product it´s the goal.



siebensus4 said:
Kakadu18 said:

So PS5 is on par with PS4 and below Wii U and PS3. Interesting. Thanks!

This only pictures the hardware side, the software side it´s another story. Ps5 is, on physical media, in the same ballpark as Xbox 360. Below Wiiu and Vita. And Japan market it the exception on digital media adoption, one of bastion of physical media yet. 



PaulPortland said:
Otter said:

This is honestly unrelated and was clearly governing your input on the topic. Lets leave the tit for tat console wars mentality outside of these discussions. 


The only reason why I jumped in to respond is because you said the idea of PS5 selling 200k in a week is a joke because its treadful software sales. PS5 has had weeks where its sold 50k hardware units and had zero software in the top 30. This shows the software charts can't be used to extrapolate what the PS5 could potentially sell in a week with supply able to meet demand. All we know is that demand is higher than supply. A portion of that is obviously scalpers, but at the end of the day famitsu doesn't distinguish between the two. How high it could sell is of course speculation

SO, you see where you fail trying to defend your argument? 

You say, PS5 will sell 200K+ only cause one store says so. But there is not games that make a contrast against the consoles sales or that demand...

Console sales flop = Software sales flop. Where the best sold game is Elden Ring with barely 160K copies. If what you say were true,  we'll see PS5 games keeping at  the top 10, or at least, we'll see ps4 games who people wanted to play in PS5, but they couldn't and furthermore, they must have to play the past version...

So, I really can't see any of your words like some with sense.

PD. OLED no stock issues in Japan? Rly man?

I said software sales can't be used to dismiss that potential and I used the store as evidence that current demand is way higher than supply. If the system can sell 50k with zero titles in the top 30, why would it need to have lots of software sales to manage 200k?

We get console sales, so we don't need to look at the software chart. We could look at software to understand that many PS5's are being resold to surrounding countries (i.e not staying in Japan), but as I said, Famitsu (and any other source) will not distinguish between that and the bottom line is we will see "PS5 has sold X" amount of consoles in Japan for that given week. 

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siebensus4 said:
Kakadu18 said:

So PS5 is on par with PS4 and below Wii U and PS3. Interesting. Thanks!

So right now the PS5 and Vita are neck and neck



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Pinkie_pie said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

If, if and if ps5..., i didn't see this level of defend when people said Switch would flop everywhere even in JP without any proof. And now, some people are trying to defend ps5 sales in JP even with the actual number. Double standards at it's finest. Quite hilarious.

Who said switch would be a flop in Japan? Forget the game sales data. There were many Nintendo fans saying ps5 would be a flop during the first month of release just because of shortages 

People who said a $300 portable wouldn't sell in JP.

GProgrammer said:

Wait I don't understand
Some people are trying to say there is not much demand for the PS5 in Japan because it doesn't sell many each week, even though every single PS5 that gets shipped there is instantly sold out.

With this lack of intelligence, one has to wonder how that manage to cross the street without getting hit by a bus

PS5 games sales in JP.

Otter said:
PaulPortland said:

SO, you see where you fail trying to defend your argument? 

You say, PS5 will sell 200K+ only cause one store says so. But there is not games that make a contrast against the consoles sales or that demand...

Console sales flop = Software sales flop. Where the best sold game is Elden Ring with barely 160K copies. If what you say were true,  we'll see PS5 games keeping at  the top 10, or at least, we'll see ps4 games who people wanted to play in PS5, but they couldn't and furthermore, they must have to play the past version...

So, I really can't see any of your words like some with sense.

PD. OLED no stock issues in Japan? Rly man?

I said software sales can't be used to dismiss that potential and I used the store as evidence that current demand is way higher than supply. If the system can sell 50k with zero titles in the top 30, why would it need to have lots of software sales to manage 200k?

We get console sales, so we don't need to look at the software chart. We could look at software to understand that many PS5's are being resold to surrounding countries (i.e not staying in Japan), but as I said, Famitsu (and any other source) will not distinguish between that and the bottom line is we will see "PS5 has sold X" amount of consoles in Japan for that given week. 

Or we can also say with the current software sales, ps5 with full supply can only sell 70-80k each week at best.