Between Sony and Nintendo, I'd edge Nintendo. If Sony didn't abandon a lot of their platformer IPs (Sly, Jak and Daxter) and had more of a presence in the Japanese games space, I'd give it to them, also I'm still annoyed at no Days Gone sequel. To me Nintendo has the better diversity
faustian.empire said:
i know the games you mentioned above have mature themes but even their Art-Style is Cartoony not like Playstation and Xbox Art-Styles. Its not just the story themes that matter but even the Graphic Styles they use which are more relatable to a kid and shows what audience the creators are targetting |
You should play Doki Doki Literature Club.
Leynos said:
Xenoblade isn't simple so I stopped reading. |
Fire Emblem isn't either.
faustian.empire said:
i know the games you mentioned above have mature themes but even their Art-Style is Cartoony not like Playstation and Xbox Art-Styles. Its not just the story themes that matter but even the Graphic Styles they use which are more relatable to a kid and shows what audience the creators are targetting |
You know who cares about this? Insecure teenagers, who want to declare that they have left their childish ways behind them. Actual adults very much enjoy games with cartoony style as much as gorefests. So you initial declaration was that Nintendo games are for everyone but insecure teenagers and Playstation games for insecure teenagers.
| Dante9 said: Disagree. Sony is more talented. They need bigger teams, because they need to bring everything in their games. Not just fun gameplay mechanics, but high end graphics, motion capture, acting, well written and deep characters and enjoyable and emotionally impactful stories that will resonate with people. They can create a whole new world that has no connection to anything they've done before and make it a success. That is craftsmanship. |
Bolded: your claim "Sony is more talented."
Underlined: your actual argument, which boils down to "Sony games have bigger budget".
You can do a lot with bigger budget. Exactly the things you talked about, motion capture, writers, creating new worlds, high end graphics. That has a positive impact on games, no doubt. But it doesn't equate talent. That doesn't mean a big team with big budget can't be talented - they can be. But you didn't explain really inhowfar Sony is really more talented, you just instantly fell back on budget. Talent can be expressed also in a small team, even a team of one person. Ever heard of Undertale? Yeah, team of one, small budget, hell of a talent.
EDIT: BTW, I won't claim Sony or Nintendo are more talented than the other, because that is highly subjective. If Leynos and you just claimed their company is more talented without arguing with false equivalencies, I wouldn't had interjected. If you claimed Sony is better because of higher budget, higher production value, I wouldn't have interjected, that is a valid way to look at things. But you explained talent with higher budgets and production value, that is the point I draw a line. Because for me the most impressive talent shines in the instances where the budget was tight. Because their talent made even with these conditions something great. Again, Toby Fox. Talent doesn't need money, although it will not hurt.
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Mnementh said:
You know who cares about this? Insecure teenagers, who want to declare that they have left their childish ways behind them. Actual adults very much enjoy games with cartoony style as much as gorefests. So you initial declaration was that Nintendo games are for everyone but insecure teenagers and Playstation games for insecure teenagers. |
C'mon we all know Killer 7 was such a quirky kids game! When I watch Angel Cop,Wicked City or Akira I just think, ah what a nice kids movie you can enjoy with the little ones.
Azzanation said:
I agree with most of your points except acouple. Firstly Nintendo is simply amazing and are front runners in leading the industry however i place Valve in Nintendo's league when it comes to redefining the industry. Valve may not make many games as Nintendo however Valve's outputs are just as legendary. Secondly, you underestimate MS's 1st party quality. Sure some games release with bugs, as do majority of games. MS games are also quite ambitious. MS Flight Sim, Sea of Thieves, Halo Infinite etc arent basic type of games. Sand box games are well known for bugs, its one of the hardest genres to polish. If you want polished visuals, check out the entire Gears of War series just to name an example. Especially Gears 5. |
Valve is not in the same league. It´s an important producer for the FPS realm, period( Portal 2, TF2, and Half-Life 2 are brilliant games). Blizzard, Origin, and Rockstar, in the golden years, I agree. The problem is Nintendo has 30 plus years and always comes back with one groundbreaking game.
Mnementh said:
You know who cares about this? Insecure teenagers, who want to declare that they have left their childish ways behind them. Actual adults very much enjoy games with cartoony style as much as gorefests. So you initial declaration was that Nintendo games are for everyone but insecure teenagers and Playstation games for insecure teenagers. |
Kirby is a good example. When I'm a young newbie never played. Now I play too much.
I came here expecting this to be overly biased towards Nintendo, with the usual apologetics and petty arguments from the usual blinders wearing lot.
And, true to itself, the forums delivered what is now expected from it.
| Hynad said: I came here expecting this to be overly biased towards Nintendo, with the usual apologetics and petty arguments from the usual blinders wearing lot. |
Way to add absolutely nothing to the thread. Congrats.
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