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I still don't think we're going to get day and date releases for PS5/PC this generation. There might be a few exceptions for multiplayer games but Sony makes billions in profit with their walled garden ecosystem. They won't even get 100% of the cut if they sell their first party software on Steam/Epic unlike the PS Store. If Sony had their own storefront then its a completely different scenario.

I think we'll see the first PS5 exclusive getting ported to PC around 2023/2024.



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PotentHerbs said:

I still don't think we're going to get day and date releases for PS5/PC this generation. There might be a few exceptions for multiplayer games but Sony makes billions in profit with their walled garden ecosystem. They won't even get 100% of the cut if they sell their first party software on Steam/Epic unlike the PS Store. If Sony had their own storefront then its a completely different scenario.

I think we'll see the first PS5 exclusive getting ported to PC around 2023/2024.

Sackboy is rumored to be coming soonish. Imo the is only so many PS4 games Sony can port before they catch up with their PS5 releases.

But i also dont see day and date any time soon for Sony except for multi player games like you said. However i also dont see it staying at 2 years between ports etc. I think at some point we will come down to 6 months to a year for PS5 exclusives.



zero129 said:

Sackboy is rumored to be coming soonish. Imo the is only so many PS4 games Sony can port before they catch up with their PS5 releases.

But i also dont see day and date any time soon for Sony except for multi player games like you said. However i also dont see it staying at 2 years between ports etc. I think at some point we will come down to 6 months to a year for PS5 exclusives.

I think 6 months to a year is an extremely optimistic turnaround for PS5 exclusives to be ported to PC. I could see PS Now getting PS4/PS5 exclusives on a much quicker basis though.



Day n date is inevitable. Once Sony sees their hardware sales won't be affected they'll go all in on PC just like Microsoft.



PotentHerbs said:
zero129 said:

Sackboy is rumored to be coming soonish. Imo the is only so many PS4 games Sony can port before they catch up with their PS5 releases.

But i also dont see day and date any time soon for Sony except for multi player games like you said. However i also dont see it staying at 2 years between ports etc. I think at some point we will come down to 6 months to a year for PS5 exclusives.

I think 6 months to a year is an extremely optimistic turnaround for PS5 exclusives to be ported to PC. I could see PS Now getting PS4/PS5 exclusives on a much quicker basis though.

I think your being very optimistic thinking it wont happen. PS console sales are not going to be effected by this otherwise all them people who just buy a console for Fifa or GTA etc would already own a PC. Im sure Sony have done the numbers and like i said when they talk about dev cost going up they are no longer on about PS4 games but PS5 games. How many PS4 games do they have to port?, you really think once they get done with them PS4 games they are just going to leave money on the table for a 2+ years?.



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zero129 said:

I think your being very optimistic thinking it wont happen. PS console sales are not going to be effected by this otherwise all them people who just buy a console for Fifa or GTA etc would already own a PC. Im sure Sony have done the numbers and like i said when they talk about dev cost going up they are no longer on about PS4 games but PS5 games. How many PS4 games do they have to port?, you really think once they get done with them PS4 games they are just going to leave money on the table for a 2+ years?.

Sony have raised game prices to $70 to compensate for higher development costs. They also have a ton of PS4 games they could potentially port: Dreams, BloodBorne, SpiderMan, Ghost of Tsushima, Gran Turismo Sport, TLOU Part II, Miles Morales, GOWR, GT7, HFW, which would take a couple of years if we assume Sony is fast tracking their ports starting in 2022, already leaving a 2/3 year gap for PS5 exclusives to be ported to PC. 

That's also assuming Sony will only bother porting their bigger titles, while smaller games like Gravity Rush 2, The Last Guardian, Concrete Genie, etc won't be ported at all. 



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
gtotheunit91 said:

Idk if I would say it's inevitable. Microsoft and Sony are insanely large companies where gaming is just one of many divisions within both companies. Nintendo doesn't have that luxury. Gaming IS Nintendo's entire business. They never sell their consoles at a loss and heavily invest in their first party games because they have to. During the Wii U days, they were losing so much money, people were thinking they were gonna go the way of Sega and go third-party. 

On the other side of the coin though, they may be investing and branching out into other mediums like theme parks, movies, and such as a way to bring in constant revenue where they aren't so dependent on their consoles and games selling so much all the time. Maybe, just maybe, one day Nintendo won't see PC as such a bad thing to bring their games to. Because right now, Nintendo just views PC as a way to take away from their console sales. 

Gaming is pretty huge for Sony now too after their laptops, cellphones, and other areas have either been sold off or marginalized.  I know they have a couple other areas like cameras and camera parts and financials but if PS4 had continued their downward trend in gaming they'd have been pretty screwed 

Sony is massive in sensors.

Their Camera sensors is one example... They sell by the bucket load.



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PotentHerbs said:
zero129 said:

I think your being very optimistic thinking it wont happen. PS console sales are not going to be effected by this otherwise all them people who just buy a console for Fifa or GTA etc would already own a PC. Im sure Sony have done the numbers and like i said when they talk about dev cost going up they are no longer on about PS4 games but PS5 games. How many PS4 games do they have to port?, you really think once they get done with them PS4 games they are just going to leave money on the table for a 2+ years?.

Sony have raised game prices to $70 to compensate for higher development costs. They also have a ton of PS4 games they could potentially port: Dreams, BloodBorne, SpiderMan, Ghost of Tsushima, Gran Turismo Sport, TLOU Part II, Miles Morales, GOWR, GT7, HFW, which would take a couple of years if we assume Sony is fast tracking their ports starting in 2022, already leaving a 2/3 year gap for PS5 exclusives to be ported to PC. 

That's also assuming Sony will only bother porting their bigger titles, while smaller games like Gravity Rush 2, The Last Guardian, Concrete Genie, etc won't be ported at all. 

As you listed them is most likely as they will come with smaller games in between, but it is still only a matter of time before they catch up on their current releases. But like i said in the OP of this thread i fully believe that Sony is going to turn PSNow into their own Store front on PC meaning they wont have to share any cut for their games sold on it and they can still charge 3rd partys for selling their games on it.



How long does it take to make a proper PC port? I don't think Sony wants to start making multiplats and rather stick to ports as they have always done. (Concentrate on the best optimized version for ps5 first) So the turnaround time from PS5 release to PC port is how ever long it takes to make a proper stable port after the PS5 release had its day one patches.

Better to release a working version on ps5 first, then a working version on PC, instead of a work in progress on both at the same time. Or worse, develop on PC first then find out there are lots of bottlenecks on console like with CP2077.

Can't you buy PC versions from Sony directly atm? They have the psn store online, but I see there is indeed no PC segment under games, and no PC version for horizon zero dawn. Kinda odd, but you don't need a PS account for the Steam version I assume? I guess Sony really wants to keep it separate?



SvennoJ said:

How long does it take to make a proper PC port? I don't think Sony wants to start making multiplats and rather stick to ports as they have always done. (Concentrate on the best optimized version for ps5 first) So the turnaround time from PS5 release to PC port is how ever long it takes to make a proper stable port after the PS5 release had its day one patches.

Better to release a working version on ps5 first, then a working version on PC, instead of a work in progress on both at the same time. Or worse, develop on PC first then find out there are lots of bottlenecks on console like with CP2077.

Can't you buy PC versions from Sony directly atm? They have the psn store online, but I see there is indeed no PC segment under games, and no PC version for horizon zero dawn. Kinda odd, but you don't need a PS account for the Steam version I assume? I guess Sony really wants to keep it separate?

Considering they created the PS PC label, I would say it is very likely for them to start to offer their PC Ports on the PS APP and online store. Could even end up with cross-buy options.



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