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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS5 Ships 13.4 Million Units as of September 30, PS4 Ships 116.6 Million

DonFerrari said:

Seems like PS5 really was constrained this quarter, it is the first time behind PS4 in total shipments right?
And as expected without pricecut PS4 is dying.

It was 300K behind PS4 last quarter, 10.1m to 10.4m.



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They said in August they had secured enough semiconducters to ship 22.6m by March 2022 so next quarter should see a large shipment and overtake the PS4 again.



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ShadowLink93 said:
Qwark said:

It will be a close battle between the PS4 and PS5 aligned this year, I don't know which one will win. The demand for PS5 is higher, although the PS4 wasn't widely available either. Anyway the holidays will be an interesting time. Lately the PS5 seems to be slightly more in stock, at least above 200k or 225k even each week.

Official shipments for the calendar year after three quarters are 9.3m for PS4 in 2014 versus 8.9m for PS5 in 2021. A 400K lead for PS4 which then shipped 6.4m in holiday of 2014, so Ps5 needs 6.8m to tie. With the supply constraints i can't see Sony shipping almost 7 million consoles in three months, PS4 will win in it's first full year versus PS5 but only because of supply issues.

Well we know Sony confirmed back in August they have secured enough chips to meet their fiscal year target of 14.8M ending in March 2022. Along with the 7.8M they shipped before that will give them 22.6M PS5 vs. 22.3M PS4 for the same time period. So whether the calendar year falls short or not is up in the air still. They still have 9.2M consoles to ship over the next 2 quarters.



Meanwhile, the company reported record profits in its interim results.



My prediction in 2021.

SW: 30m

PS5 16m

XBS: 7.5m

ShadowLink93 said:

After Four Quarters the PS5 is now Behind NSW launch aligned but will overtake it next quarter due to their holiday quarters being out of sync.

The Switch vs PS5 launch aligned graph should do a double helix like with the PS4 comparison for a few years.



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I still think it was a great mistake of Sony and Microsoft to release the PS5 and Xbox Series X/S in 2020. It was not necessary, the old consoles could go on for one year more. Granted, if they would release in Nov. 2021 they still would have shortages but at least it would settle within a more reasonable time. If it's true that they will be constraint until June/July 2022 it would mean that the regular Joe couldn't find a PS5 or Xbox Series X (the Series S seems to be more readily available) in store for over 1 1/2 years. That's just not healthy and how it should be.



Blood_Tears said:
DonFerrari said:

Seems like PS5 really was constrained this quarter, it is the first time behind PS4 in total shipments right?
And as expected without pricecut PS4 is dying.

This quarter was pretty much a write off in competing with PS4 due to the Destiny bundle effect in September 2014. PS5 will likely make it up after the next 2 quarters though.

And PS4 wasn't supply constrained anymore by this time while PS5 is. I`m certain PS5 could stay ahead if there were enough production capability available.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Yeah that's the end of the PS4. What a great run it had.
PS5 looks to be following up that run pretty nicely though. Should be another 100m+ gen for Sony.



I think Sony is doing the smart thing. What's better?

-Continuing to make/market an old system heavily, knowing people aren't buying games there as much as the current gen.

-Focus on the current gen device, make few old systems and spend little on marketing it (if any).

I think the Big 3 have found out that there is far more money to be made pushing current gen devices. You get more water squeezing a fully submerged towel than you do squeezing one that was wet a few days ago. What they care about is pushing their "wettest" console, I doubt they care much about lifetime sales since old gen consoles aren't selling nearly as much software as they used to.



Dulfite said:

I think Sony is doing the smart thing. What's better?

-Continuing to make/market an old system heavily, knowing people aren't buying games there as much as the current gen.

-Focus on the current gen device, make few old systems and spend little on marketing it (if any).

I think the Big 3 have found out that there is far more money to be made pushing current gen devices. You get more water squeezing a fully submerged towel than you do squeezing one that was wet a few days ago. What they care about is pushing their "wettest" console, I doubt they care much about lifetime sales since old gen consoles aren't selling nearly as much software as they used to.

Different from PS2 days and before when the launch in markets were a lot more tiered and they had less historical data, probably now they have enough that show the drop in SW sales is step even if they keep selling systems so it is pointless to cut the price and keep the tail going for years when they can put that money in accelerating the current gen and earn more profits (PS4 and PS5 profits shows that it is working much better than PS1 to PS3 eras). PS2 dominated and outsold competition like 5:1 and had 1.5B sold of SW still PS4 was having profits that possibly in every year outdone the combined years of PS2.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."