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Who has the best 2022 lineup so far?

Nintendo 65 52.85%
 
Playstation 36 29.27%
 
Xbox 16 13.01%
 
Undecided/NA 6 4.88%
 
Total:123
PotentHerbs said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

1st bold: Pokemon + BoTW 2 + Splatoon 3 definitely sell more.

2nd bold: at launch only, Nintendo games still sell millions after 4 years at full $60, while Sony games will drop the price after 6-12 months. Revenue, Sony always > Nintendo, but profit, Nintendo always > Sony. Even in ps2/GameCube era, Nintendo profit was bigger than Sony.

Pokemon + BoTW2 + Splatoon 3 selling more than GoWR + HFW + GT7 isn't "definite" at all especially with Splatoon 3 having the least pull.

If you want to bring up overall revenue/profit for their games, don't forget Sony leverages first party software through PS+ & PS Now, PC releases, adapting their IP via Playstation Productions (which is also sold to Disney/Netflix for their subscription services), have a ton of multiplayer games in development, higher game prices + growing digital sales. Whatever Sony made in the PS2/PS4 era will be dwarfed by PS5 profits because of these factors. Nintendo making more money than Playstation isn't guaranteed at all in this decade.

Bold: Splatoon 1 sold over 5mil, Splatoon 2 sold over 10mil, Splatoon 3 can sold > 15mil. The least pull??? That's funny.

Bold 2:

-higher game prices for 6-12 months only then drop very fast, Nintendo games will almost always be at $60 for entire the generation.

-Sony games cost a lot more to make compared to Nintendo games.

-Sony has growing digital sales, but Nintendo has both growing physical sales + digital sales, BoTW can sell 30mil LT, no Zelda game before can come close to that, many Nintendo series sold a lot more compared to the previous gen.



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PotentHerbs said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

1st bold: Pokemon + BoTW 2 + Splatoon 3 definitely sell more.

2nd bold: at launch only, Nintendo games still sell millions after 4 years at full $60, while Sony games will drop the price after 6-12 months. Revenue, Sony always > Nintendo, but profit, Nintendo always > Sony. Even in ps2/GameCube era, Nintendo profit was bigger than Sony.

Pokemon + BoTW2 + Splatoon 3 selling more than GoWR + HFW + GT7 isn't "definite" at all especially with Splatoon 3 having the least pull.

If you want to bring up overall revenue/profit for their games, don't forget Sony leverages first party software through PS+ & PS Now, PC releases, adapting their IP via Playstation Productions (which is also sold to Disney/Netflix for their subscription services), have a ton of multiplayer games in development, higher game prices + growing digital sales. Whatever Sony made in the PS2/PS4 era will be dwarfed by PS5 profits because of these factors. Nintendo making more money than Playstation isn't guaranteed at all in this decade.

Bold: Splatoon 1 sold over 5mil, Splatoon 2 sold over 10mil, Splatoon 3 can sold over 15mil. That least pull costs a lot less to make than many Sony games while selling way more, that's funny.

Bold 2:

-higher game prices for 6-12 months only then drop very fast, Nintendo games will almost always be $60 for entire the generation.

-Sony games cost a lot more to make compared to Nintendo games.

-Sony has growing digital sales, but Nintendo has both growing physical sales + digital sales, BoTW can sell 30mil LT, no Zelda game before can come close to that, many Nintendo series sold a lot more compared to their previous gen.

Last edited by HoangNhatAnh - on 27 September 2021

I can't imagine saying anything else other than Nintendo for myself, personally.

While the company has definitely had their fair share of weak years lineup-wise with the Switch, 2022 doesn't look to be one of them. In fact, it will probably be up there with 2019 as the best year for the Switch (personally think 2017 is a little overrated quality-wise, hoping the same won't be true with 2022).

Xbox could actually end up pretty close to Playstation in terms of titles interesting to me. I think Stalker 2 looks pretty interesting and like what I've played of the original. And Starfield could be good, could be great, could be bad, not really sure. But I could see it being a big hit for Xbox (as it probably will be regardless of quality).

Playstations lineup is OK. More assured than Xboxs, but also not anything crazy.



What about that project Eve game? That looked damn cool at the showcase but I guess it's maybe multiplat



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How could one "reboot" a racing sim franchise?  Like...they're already not really connected in any way so I guess just to reset the numbering or something?



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HoangNhatAnh said:

Bold: Splatoon 1 sold over 5mil, Splatoon 2 sold over 10mil, Splatoon 3 can sold over 15mil. That least pull costs a lot less to make than many Sony games while selling way more, that's funny.

Bold 2:

-higher game prices for 6-12 months only then drop very fast, Nintendo games will almost always be $60 for entire the generation.

-Sony games cost a lot more to make compared to Nintendo games.

-Sony has growing digital sales, but Nintendo has both growing physical sales + digital sales, BoTW can sell 30mil LT, no Zelda game before can come close to that, many Nintendo series sold a lot more compared to their previous gen.

Who said anything about the majority of Sony games? Do you think Splatoon 3 has more pull than GT7, HFW or GoWR? Simple question. If not, Sony would have the strongest 2022 based on the sales strength of their first party software. The amount of profit Sony/Nintendo make has no value to this question, due to the variables that make up revenue/profit (IE. Nintendo selling full priced software might be the driving factor in their profitability but its not the only factor) & the fact that we're still in the infancy of the current generation to determine such trends. 

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While Playstation first party games cost a lot to produce, they also have more avenues to make up money (IE. PS Now/Plus/PC) & Playstation IP's are being adapted to other mediums. Imagine, a property like TLOU generating billions in revenue through gaming, television or even mobile, Sony is one of the few companies that can expand an IP like this. Sony has a lot more competition on their platform making price drops necessary. Even a massive franchise like GTA can't remain at full price for a whole generation. However, you still get premium quality, tons of variety & flexible software pricing, making the Playstation walled garden a lot more enticing than the Nintendo walled garden. But hey, you like paying full price for a game that released three years ago, then flex! 

So you think BoTW & Splatoon can grow but GoW & HZD will remain stagnant? For all we know, GoWR can reach 30+ Million lifetime, while HFW reaches 25+ Million lifetime. What makes you think SIE IP will stop growing this generation? Also, Nintendo digital sales aren't growing at the rate that Playstation digital sales are, and their subscription services are still a generation behind.



NVidia, if we go for that leaked list they even have games from the platform holders that weren`t even announced =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I think Nintendo. BOTW 2 will be a must-buy. Forgotten Land is actually making me excited for a Kirby game. Shredder's Revenge will probably be a buy for me. Though I might get it on Windows or wait until it comes to PS4 (if it ever does).
I think Sony managed to get the better of Nintendo in 2020. But I think Nintendo has probably managed a better 2021 and possibly a better 2022.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)

Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Nintendo for me, after that Microsoft, and after that Sony.



 

PotentHerbs said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Bold: Splatoon 1 sold over 5mil, Splatoon 2 sold over 10mil, Splatoon 3 can sold over 15mil. That least pull costs a lot less to make than many Sony games while selling way more, that's funny.

Bold 2:

-higher game prices for 6-12 months only then drop very fast, Nintendo games will almost always be $60 for entire the generation.

-Sony games cost a lot more to make compared to Nintendo games.

-Sony has growing digital sales, but Nintendo has both growing physical sales + digital sales, BoTW can sell 30mil LT, no Zelda game before can come close to that, many Nintendo series sold a lot more compared to their previous gen.

Who said anything about the majority of Sony games? Do you think Splatoon 3 has more pull than GT7, HFW or GoWR? Simple question. If not, Sony would have the strongest 2022 based on the sales strength of their first party software. The amount of profit Sony/Nintendo make has no value to this question, due to the variables that make up revenue/profit (IE. Nintendo selling full priced software might be the driving factor in their profitability but its not the only factor) & the fact that we're still in the infancy of the current generation to determine such trends. 

---

While Playstation first party games cost a lot to produce, they also have more avenues to make up money (IE. PS Now/Plus/PC) & Playstation IP's are being adapted to other mediums. Imagine, a property like TLOU generating billions in revenue through gaming, television or even mobile, Sony is one of the few companies that can expand an IP like this. Sony has a lot more competition on their platform making price drops necessary. Even a massive franchise like GTA can't remain at full price for a whole generation. However, you still get premium quality, tons of variety & flexible software pricing, making the Playstation walled garden a lot more enticing than the Nintendo walled garden. But hey, you like paying full price for a game that released three years ago, then flex! 

So you think BoTW & Splatoon can grow but GoW & HZD will remain stagnant? For all we know, GoWR can reach 30+ Million lifetime, while HFW reaches 25+ Million lifetime. What makes you think SIE IP will stop growing this generation? Also, Nintendo digital sales aren't growing at the rate that Playstation digital sales are, and their subscription services are still a generation behind.

I think Splatoon 3 is going to outsell GT7 unless it sells less than Splatoon 2 and GT7 returns to the 11-12mil sales previous games had. Splatoon 2 outsold all GT games except for GT3 after all.