VAMatt said:
curl-6 said:
Nintendo from 2017-present compared to Nintendo in 2011-2016 is night and day different. Their hardware much more versatile, well designed, and developer-friendly, their marketing is much more savvy, they're generally a lot more in tune with their audience, their major games are more ambitious.
They clearly learned a lot from the Wii U's failings and adjusted accordingly.
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I don't see these big changes. Yes, their hardware is better in many ways. But, that's it. Also, they didn't whip the Switch out in 2 years, it took several years of development. So, I don't know how much of that came out of lessons from the Wii U.
I don't know what marketing changes that you're talking about. That stuff looks exactly like it has always been, aside from doing a better job of explaining what the hardware is. I also don't see that they're more in tune with their audience. They're making the same stuff as always. Games more ambitious.....if you mean BotW, sure. But, aside from that, I don't see any major advances. Their biggest Switch game - Kart - is literally the same game as their biggest Wii U game.
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Wii U crashed and burned almost immediately and development of the Switch took place during its years as the living dead, so I don't see any way its failure could NOT affect the direction they took.
Their marketing now is much less saccharine and kid-oriented and instead primarily aimed at hip young adults, featuring popular music and trendy attractive grownups more than the preteens that dominated Wii U ads.
Mario Odyssey is much more ambitious than 3D World, Kirby and the Forgotten Land and even Star Allies much more so than Rainbow Curse, Mario Maker 2 more than 1, Smash Ultimate more than Smash 4, New Horizons more than Amiibo Festival, Origami King more than Colour Splash, Ring Fit Adventure more than the half-assed Wii Fit U, Age of Calamity more than Hyrule Warriors 1, Retro are now making Metroid Prime 4 compared to a 2D sidescroller on Wii U, etc.
Current Nintendo is nothing at all like Nintendo of the Wii U era.
Last edited by curl-6 - on 06 October 2021